AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sadi]

Interesting.
How many people would actually buy this particular mask and for what purpose other than some sort of criminal activity? Also, it looks incredibly warm. How uncomfortable is this thing while wearing it?
I would pull it off after mere minutes

We have something similar to this mask. We live in Minnesota, shoveling in the cold for over an hour, it helps to have your face totally covered.

 

[TIGER0822]

The lastest on X is that the mask from Walmart can only be ordered online and shipped to your address. Hoping that helps narrow that down for them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024106464470839577

Skiers use these

 

[Sessiebo]

There are plenty of people that work outdoor jobs that would wear this mask in extremely cold weather. However, this brings us to a very interesting point. NO ONE in Tucson would be buying this mask online intending to use it in cold weather because it doesn't ever freeze there, according to Google.

Yeah that was my point, it must be very itchy and sweaty to wear that

 

[WizPro]

This sounds like a PR/legal department response to alleviate public concerns and/or criticisms over the ease and speed with which Google spits out what many folks perceive (naively) to be private information. Even if it is public information, it doesn't necessarily mean Google has an implicit or explicit right to publish and make it available to anyone who searches for it on their platform. I imagine that might need to be determined, particularly if making the information readily available could've contributed to a crime. Governments are protected if they make information like that available to anyone - businesses may or may not be.

The Google searches of NG and SG, if from the same source and especially considering their dates and proximities to the crime, aren't likely coincidences.

JMO.

I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding about what’s being described.

There is no private information being disclosed here. Google isn’t publishing “who searched what.” What’s being referenced are aggregate trend metrics — essentially, how often a particular search term was used relative to other searches over a period of time.

In tools like Google Trends, Google does not publish:

• Individual user identities
• IP addresses
• Exact search counts
• Raw search logs

They publish normalized, relative interest data (scaled 0–100) based on aggregated search volume. It’s statistical trend information, not personal search history.

So legally and technically, this is very different from Google “making private information public.” It’s closer to publishing market research data than exposing individual activity.

As for the searches of NG and SG — if they originated from the same source and occurred close in time to a crime, that may be probative depending on context. But the existence of trend data itself doesn’t implicate privacy violations. The evidentiary value would come from properly obtained search history tied to a specific account or device — not from public trend graphs.

Just my perspective.

 

[Former Reporter]

There’s a documentary on Netflix called Lover Stalker Killer where a woman named Shanna "Liz" Golyar hid her IP address and masked her identity while stalking and impersonating Cari F. by using a combination of Virtual Private Networks (VPNs), proxy services, and specialized communications apps.
“The suspect used VPNs, proxies, and apps to schedule texts and hide their IP address. The successful prosecution, owing to years of work by dedicated public servants in two states, relied heavily on digital evidence to prove a premeditated, no-body homicide.”

A digital forensic investigator named Anthony Kava wound up writing a program that helped to solve the murder. Fascinating and unsettling documentary. The investigator even did an AMA on Reddit.


When it comes to the ransom communications I think some apps like this may be being used, obviously along with VPNs by the person(s) that have NG. And I know they’re gonna find these people and get Nancy back one way or the other.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1bax5zv/i_am_the_nerd_from_netflixs_lover_stalker_killer

https://www.netflix.com/title/81611991

This one was local to me (Nebraska case). Leslie Rule (Ann's daughter) wrote a great book about it called A Tangled Web that explains how they unraveled the case. I hope the same thing is not going on with NG's case because it actually took a few years before they figured out what was going on with the Golyar case. She was convicted in 2017. Shanna Golyar sentenced to life for first-degree murder (edited to add that she was convicted in 2017)

 

[TIGER0822]

To me the ‘bitcoin demand person’ wirh information sounds legitimate . However I fear there may be imposters copying him.

 

[Sessiebo]

Skiers use these

Exactly, skiers. But as i understand Tucson is in a desert so no cold, no snow, no ice. Makes no sense

 

[Brightchaser47]

Yeah that was my point, it must be very itchy and sweaty to wear that

For "Porch Creep", yes. Those of us shoveling snow, etc in sub-zero temps, no. jmo

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

A couple of days ago Brian Entin said to watch the next 24-48 hours.

I was also thinking the FBI and LE were close to an arrest or arrests. JMO

 

[sleeptoker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024619676165390821

 

[Han]

Report by Jim Moret on some of the implications of someone taking NG to Mexico and a group of ‘searching mothers’ who are looking for her in Sonora ​

 

[The Missing Canoe]

Welcome, and so glad you are here to help in Nancy's thread.

That observation you have made about the tracks is very interesting, but we do need an actual link to the source of that attachment.

Whilst frantically trying to quote and unquote (very difficult on cell?), shonyakay graciously provided this link:

https://pagesix.com/wp-content/uplo...284272_0fade7.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1024

(Thank you kindly )

 

[Brightchaser47]

I was also thinking the FBI and LE were close to an arrest or arrests. JMO

Anyone else feel like when they do actually make an arrest, it will be a surprise?
ETA: That could be interpreted a couple ways-- that was intentional

 

[H73]

Had anyone bragged about passing the test ?

 

[SRWCF]

Possibly also for a Halloween costume?

I don't know. The average highs in Tucson in October are 87 degrees. Way too hot that time of year to wear that mask as a costume. I really like this new lead, though. Since the mask can only be ordered online, maybe they'll be able to narrow it down to purchasers in the Tucson area. (I know, I know, one can dream that it could be that easy to catch this perp.)

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Was someone living in or staying at the guest house on NG's property?

Not recently. As per NYT, NG's mother and Nancy's older brother Pierce, who had Down's Syndrome, lived in the guest house in the 1980s.

JMO

Nancy Guthrie’s Friends Long for Their Partner in Mahjong and Life

Shortly before her disappearance, Ms. Guthrie, the mother of the NBC host Savannah Guthrie, was celebrating her 84th birthday and playing games.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Skiers use these

Snowmobilers use these masks also...

 

[SMK777]

I was also thinking the FBI and LE were close to an arrest or arrests. JMO

It's so disappointing.

 

[RedHaus]

Sorry if posted already. Just jumping in having not caught up from last night yet.

This ties to my post about the CNN Live guest, FORMER FBI SPECIALIST, who thinks its possible the perp has killed himself. And I further opined here if the perp may have committed M-S on 2/1 as part of a deranged plot to punish SG.

"AUTHORITIES searching for Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper are looking at anyone who has gone MIA for the past three weeks, according to a report.

Source: U.S. Sun today (link does work)

Verifying Device

 

[cherryleaf]

This one was local to me (Nebraska case). Leslie Rule (Ann's daughter) wrote a great book about it called A Tangled Web that explains how they unraveled the case. I hope the same thing is not going on with NG's case because it actually took a few years before they figured out what was going on with the Golyar case. She was convicted in 2017. Shanna Golyar sentenced to life for first-degree murder (edited to add that she was convicted in 2017)

Gosh, me too. Im guessing digital forensics investigators learned a lot with that case. They’re gonna find the person/ people that did this to Nancy!

(Goylar was Bat —$hit. I was so freaked out by that documentary. I didn’t see it coming until close to the end)