AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Elle*Bee]

I think it feels slow because there's an urgency to find NG because of her age and need for meds. In reality, it's been three weeks. I've followed quite a few cases here on WS and very few of them have been solved in three weeks. What I'm seeing here is an expectation that she (and the perp(s)) should have been found days ago. It took nine months for Elizabeth Smart to be found. But we don't know if NG can live nine months without her meds. MOO

I often think of the Ariel Castro case. . It was years before his victims were found.

 

[Moonchime]

Unless you recognize the voice..?

-Nin

Well, dang, you've got me there. If I recognized the voice as someone I trusted, I'd open the door. Therein lies the problem.

 

[barth00]

Does anyone else think lantana man looks really young, like in his 20s/early 30s? I know I’ve seen people theorize he was 40+ but I just don’t see it. His gait looks very young to me. Would him being in his 20s change what we believe the motive to be? Sexual vs financial vs whatever else

Would also align with them seeming to target mother/son duos. I know we’ve discussed this already.

JMO

 

[warp3dwing]

I also noticed something glowing in the bottom right corner of the video within the first 5 seconds. I wonder if it was actually something, or just a weird reflection from the lens. It disappears and doesn't seem to reappear.

Edited for typos.

It's the door knob and deadbolt. The video linked above did some weird cropping that's not in the actual video. Here are the clips from the FBI's page: NANCY GUTHRIE | Federal Bureau of Investigation

I would've linked these instead of the news channel's clip, but the FBI videos cut out the first few steps.

 

[maskedwoman]

Why is it necessarily a slip? A reporter’s choice of verb tense may be absolutely appropriate or merely poor grammar. The same for a family member or friend of a crime victim. I would hope that police would already be suspicious about someone before considering verb tense as a sign of potential guilt. This level of parsing people’s grammar might be one reason some people don’t make public statements. Of course, only my opinion.

I respectfully disagree. When someone is missing and the person is supposedly desperate for their safe return, they almost always refer to them in present tense because they don't want to even consider that they are dead. And murderers have been known to refer to their victims in past tense by mistake fore being notified the person was dead. MOO

 

[Elle*Bee]

Finding the perp.

Agree

 

[maskedwoman]

Great movie. I think the last of the Russell Crowe type of interrogations were US intelligence/special forces against terrorists during the Global War on Terror.

I get why it’s passe in LE interrogations today, I really do but I think it’s effective if your sure beyond a reasonable doubt if you have the bad guy.

MOO

Respectfully, that is the jury's job to decide on guilt, not the investigating officer's job. l know it used to happen, and it may still happen sometimes, but it's a violation of the suspect's rights. What if the officers were mistakenly sure of your guilt and needed a confession?

 

[Elle*Bee]

The kidnapper was in the home for over 40 minutes. That’s not a simple burglary, or a planned kidnapping. That kidnapper had a mission. The guy at the door was very calm. Oh poor Nancy. Reading @Oldguy theory makes sense . Say this was a sick sex crime - why would he take her with him?

If it was a S*x assault (I hope it wasn’t), removing her body and hiding it well, would decrease the chance of finding the perp’s DNA on her.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos revealed that there are problems with the DNA evidence collected from Nancy Guthrie’s house that could take up to a year for the private Florida lab he’s using to resolve.

DNA in Nancy Guthrie case could take ‘a year’ to analyze, sheriff says — after using private lab instead of FBI

“The reality is that I also know that sometimes things take time,” Sheriff Nanos said.

nypost.com

 

[Kemug]

I agree about Tim but the idea of those beautiful horses picking their way through all the cactus makes me cringe. I certainly hope that doesn't become necessary.

They may wear tarpaulin material stockings.

 

[VegasGirl35]

Does anyone else think lantana man looks really young, like in his 20s/early 30s? I know I’ve seen people theorize he was 40+ but I just don’t see it. His gait looks very young to me. Would him being in his 20s change what we believe the motive to be? Sexual vs financial vs whatever else

Would also align with them seeming to target mother/son duos. I know we’ve discussed this already.

JMO

I think he's on the younger side as well. When I first saw the video, I guessed late 20s/early 30s.

 

[LarryLujack]

DBM

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the ring video?

Seems to me that it's the railing for the steps. MOO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Shows like Today and Live With Kelly and Mark often feature cameos from spouses and kids, but insiders predict that things may become more business-like in the wake of Nancy's disappearance.

"It’s an industry-wide recalibration," a media executive told Rob Shuter's Substack. "When real life becomes frightening, the ‘we’re one big family’ model feels riskier."

A senior morning producer shared "there were at least three family tie-ins pulled this week," noting the atmosphere in the studio "suddenly feels different."

https://www.aol.com/articles/savannah-guthries-moms-abduction-morning-191104759.html

 

[dmack77]

Hello, newbie here. Been following this tragedy since the beginning. Am I the only one that sees an outline of shorts under the suspect's pants? Makes me think he may have had additional clothing with him, but why carry that backpack if you have a car somewhere? It obviously didn't have tools for disabling the camera. I haven't kept up with all 1850 pages here so apologize in advance if thoughts are redundant to this thread.

 

[LarryLujack]

Seems to me that it's the railing for the steps. MOO.

I think you are correct with a plant in the distance making it look like a mailbox.

 

[VSan]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the nest video?

I believe that’s just a railing

 

[warp3dwing]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the nest video?

DBM

 

[connie9030]

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos revealed that there are problems with the DNA evidence collected from Nancy Guthrie’s house that could take up to a year for the private Florida lab he’s using to resolve.

DNA in Nancy Guthrie case could take ‘a year’ to analyze, sheriff says — after using private lab instead of FBI

“The reality is that I also know that sometimes things take time,” Sheriff Nanos said.

nypost.com

The Sheriff has said some unusual things. I don't know what to believe. Just a few days ago he announced to the public Nancy is a walking beacon hoping the kidnapper might be pressured to surrender but the kidnapper is likely mentally unstable. A rational person might surrender; a demented person might attempt to silence the signal by destroying the source (the pacemaker), which is a death sentence for Nancy. Sheriff needs to stop talking.

 

[Data Sleuth]

Data centers take a significant amount of water for cooling. Meta is building a number of data centers to support AI in the Midwest and citizens are concerned about the water supply and energy costs. I don't see them building data centers in the desert.

A bit off topic perhaps…there are lots of posts to scroll through as it is, so when folks go off topic it makes it somewhat difficult to to stay up to date. Not a complaint, just an observation and my opinion only.