AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Elle*Bee]

Finding the perp.

Agree

 

[maskedwoman]

Great movie. I think the last of the Russell Crowe type of interrogations were US intelligence/special forces against terrorists during the Global War on Terror.

I get why it’s passe in LE interrogations today, I really do but I think it’s effective if your sure beyond a reasonable doubt if you have the bad guy.

MOO

Respectfully, that is the jury's job to decide on guilt, not the investigating officer's job. l know it used to happen, and it may still happen sometimes, but it's a violation of the suspect's rights. What if the officers were mistakenly sure of your guilt and needed a confession?

 

[Elle*Bee]

The kidnapper was in the home for over 40 minutes. That’s not a simple burglary, or a planned kidnapping. That kidnapper had a mission. The guy at the door was very calm. Oh poor Nancy. Reading @Oldguy theory makes sense . Say this was a sick sex crime - why would he take her with him?

If it was a S*x assault (I hope it wasn’t), removing her body and hiding it well, would decrease the chance of finding the perp’s DNA on her.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos revealed that there are problems with the DNA evidence collected from Nancy Guthrie’s house that could take up to a year for the private Florida lab he’s using to resolve.

DNA in Nancy Guthrie case could take ‘a year’ to analyze, sheriff says — after using private lab instead of FBI

“The reality is that I also know that sometimes things take time,” Sheriff Nanos said.

nypost.com

 

[Kemug]

I agree about Tim but the idea of those beautiful horses picking their way through all the cactus makes me cringe. I certainly hope that doesn't become necessary.

They may wear tarpaulin material stockings.

 

[VegasGirl35]

Does anyone else think lantana man looks really young, like in his 20s/early 30s? I know I’ve seen people theorize he was 40+ but I just don’t see it. His gait looks very young to me. Would him being in his 20s change what we believe the motive to be? Sexual vs financial vs whatever else

Would also align with them seeming to target mother/son duos. I know we’ve discussed this already.

JMO

I think he's on the younger side as well. When I first saw the video, I guessed late 20s/early 30s.

 

[LarryLujack]

DBM

 

[VeronicaVaughn]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the ring video?

Seems to me that it's the railing for the steps. MOO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Shows like Today and Live With Kelly and Mark often feature cameos from spouses and kids, but insiders predict that things may become more business-like in the wake of Nancy's disappearance.

"It’s an industry-wide recalibration," a media executive told Rob Shuter's Substack. "When real life becomes frightening, the ‘we’re one big family’ model feels riskier."

A senior morning producer shared "there were at least three family tie-ins pulled this week," noting the atmosphere in the studio "suddenly feels different."

https://www.aol.com/articles/savannah-guthries-moms-abduction-morning-191104759.html

 

[dmack77]

Hello, newbie here. Been following this tragedy since the beginning. Am I the only one that sees an outline of shorts under the suspect's pants? Makes me think he may have had additional clothing with him, but why carry that backpack if you have a car somewhere? It obviously didn't have tools for disabling the camera. I haven't kept up with all 1850 pages here so apologize in advance if thoughts are redundant to this thread.

 

[LarryLujack]

Seems to me that it's the railing for the steps. MOO.

I think you are correct with a plant in the distance making it look like a mailbox.

 

[VSan]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the nest video?

I believe that’s just a railing

 

[warp3dwing]

I was looking at the perp video and the satellite/street images. Is that a mailbox in the perp video? Because her mailbox on the street would never be able to be seen in the nest video?

DBM

 

[connie9030]

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos revealed that there are problems with the DNA evidence collected from Nancy Guthrie’s house that could take up to a year for the private Florida lab he’s using to resolve.

DNA in Nancy Guthrie case could take ‘a year’ to analyze, sheriff says — after using private lab instead of FBI

“The reality is that I also know that sometimes things take time,” Sheriff Nanos said.

nypost.com

The Sheriff has said some unusual things. I don't know what to believe. Just a few days ago he announced to the public Nancy is a walking beacon hoping the kidnapper might be pressured to surrender but the kidnapper is likely mentally unstable. A rational person might surrender; a demented person might attempt to silence the signal by destroying the source (the pacemaker), which is a death sentence for Nancy. Sheriff needs to stop talking.

 

[Data Sleuth]

Data centers take a significant amount of water for cooling. Meta is building a number of data centers to support AI in the Midwest and citizens are concerned about the water supply and energy costs. I don't see them building data centers in the desert.

A bit off topic perhaps…there are lots of posts to scroll through as it is, so when folks go off topic it makes it somewhat difficult to to stay up to date. Not a complaint, just an observation and my opinion only.

 

[SMK777]

I think it feels slow because there's an urgency to find NG because of her age and need for meds. In reality, it's been three weeks. I've followed quite a few cases here on WS and very few of them have been solved in three weeks. What I'm seeing here is an expectation that she (and the perp(s)) should have been found days ago. It took nine months for Elizabeth Smart to be found. But we don't know if NG can live nine months without her meds. MOO

That's the difference between this case and cases like Elizabeth Smart, and others.

NG's age and medical vulnerabilities made this case very urgent.

 

[SMK777]

I sometimes think of the Sebastian Rogers case, also, in relation to this one. I had expected that case to be resolved within a reasonable amount of time.

I'm afraid of this case fading away as that one did. I guess the possibility and fear of that is always there, in cases of disappearance.
Just musing out loud.

 

[Trino]

I respectfully disagree. When someone is missing and the person is supposedly desperate for their safe return, they almost always refer to them in present tense because they don't want to even consider that they are dead. And murderers have been known to refer to their victims in past tense by mistake fore being notified the person was dead. MOO

At what point in the investigation will the case talk about the presumption NG is no longer alive? Three months? Six? More?

 

[QueenBofOB]

ETA: I am wondering if the perp is even a stalker. I wonder if he was a day worker, maybe an illegal with a grudge against citizens and maybe she said something to him/her. Maybe told them they were doing the work wrong or to get off her property? People are losing their minds over the simplest slight and its very possible. Maybe the perp was in her home for 41 minutes because he tied her up and looked for valuables but didn't find any. I pray she is alive now.

I thought maybe a worker too, at first. But then after seeing what a pinky ring on his finger under the glove and manicured eyebrows/mustache might be, I am thinking someone who has some money, a lot of education on using computers and as someone has stated already, may live in the neighborhood and saw an opportunity.

 

[stmichael]

I thought maybe a worker too, at first. But then after seeing what a pinky ring on his finger under the glove and manicured eyebrows/mustache might be, I am thinking someone who has some money, a lot of education on using computers and as someone has stated already, may live in the neighborhood and saw an opportunity.

Interesting take. Those eyebrows and a pinky ring would evoke low class to me. I've seen that a lot in my time in NYC. Very "street". Actually several of my landscapers (and ex co-workers) have the "sharpie" eyebrows and a pinky ring--it's a cultural thing.

BTW I firmly believe the "ring" is a case of pareidolia, and was just a high riding crease. The thing that struck me about those gloves as someone who uses them a lot was how loose they were with so many folds and creases showing up in the IR light of the cam. And the eyebrows also could just be the contrast edge of an underneath mask, many suspect. We really don't know.