• #9,761
IMO, as she has lived a private life until this terror, I can see the “fish out of water” aspect.

That’s in conjunction to what must be panic, as well as people eyeballing her husband, her not accustomed to being on TV, or any number of innocent reasons.

It’s her mother too, and this must all be excruciating for her. Unless and until LE says her husband is a suspect, I give her all grace to comport herself in any way.

JMO
Honestly, as an investigator myself and trained to read for signs of credibility, AG came across as credible in her grief and sadness. I did not see any body language or other signifiers that would lead me to question her credibility. I do not suspect her of any involvement in this and I am willing to say that categorically now.
 
  • #9,762
I'm wondering that flood light really was broken while the roof was being sealed. A bucket of sealant taking a wild swing into it could conceivably hit hard enough to break the brick. JMO
 
  • #9,763
I mean, there is a particular news anchor who got shafted in 2012 by ML and SG took over from her, but that would be in the realm of fantasy to think she had anything to do with this 😄

Not her. (If we are speaking about the same person, simply not the sharpest tool, sorry. No.) I think, someone who might work for AG. There is probably a group. The relationship with the boss can be always complex.
 
  • #9,764
I don't think the ransom is in the 10's of millions of dollars. If I had to guess I would say <5 million. The kidnappers (assuming this is a kidnapping) are going to ask for an amount that is large but not large enough to cause someone to think twice, they would ask for an amount that is very doable for the person, to me that would make the most sense.
 
  • #9,765
First of all, I want to apologize for jumping the gun regarding the white van being found. I got that tip from a valued source this morning, but all these hours later, I went back to my source and the tip was walked back. Unfortunately, there's been a bungled investigation, calling to mind "shades of Jon Benet Ramsey" where misinformation ran rampant. In fact, it seems Donald Trump was also jumping the gun yesterday when he suggested that information from the FBI or DOJ "could come out soon," hinting that a suspect had been identified. That comment was made over 18 hours ago, with no follow up -- yet. All of this leaves us in the dark, hoping that sophisticated FBI devices will be able to identify Nancy's abductor.

LET ME ADD THIS: Savannah is a person of faith who has total belief in the power of prayer. In fact, in 2024, she published a bestseller titled "Mostly What God Does," describing how her faith helped her during the most difficult times in her life. OF COURSE she and her family are praying and believing that Nancy is alive, and why would anyone want to squelch that hope?

At the same time, the intense focus on this case, fueled by the combination of celebrity, crime, and mystery, has become a national obsession. We have not seen this much media coverage since the O.J. Simpson case, and it makes sense that the public wants to help. There ARE signs of forced entry into that house, and many of Nancy's neighbors fear there's a killer on the loose. And meantime, LET US PRAY.
Where is the link to a forced entry? As the sheriff has reported to the media that they won't be disclosing this
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  • #9,766
So I work in this area and odds are (with SG's knowledge/wealth and NG's wealth and age) NG may have a trust, not a will. A will is basic and has to go through probate, a time-consuming, expensive, public process. A trust would manage more assets, do so privately, and can set things up financially for grandkids, charities, etc. People would still be beneciaries and get money when she passed away. It would also manage the money that NG lives on and protect it in case nursing home care is needed, etc. But it would all be managed by a trustee. A trustee can be a family member, friend, or a bank/corporation. How this factors into a financial motive may still be the same as if it were a will. I just wanted to clarify in case it matters!
Thank you for sharing this information. I can't keep up with this fast-moving discussion and haven't read any posts that refer to a Will/Trust. DH and I have had various Wills since we were in our 30s, but now that we are in our 70s, we have a Living Trust for the reasons that you outlined in your post. It was a costly endeavor but well worth the expense to know that our affairs are in order and that our wishes will be carried out with specific details.
 
  • #9,767
Very smart and on many cases when house is in a trust, it’s tied to their overall estate. There is a trustee and all assets are left to the trust. Then people designated in the trust receive payout and many conditions of the estate and trust can be setup. In my experience, so please dont attack, only people like with larger assets do trusts and estates, leaving homes as part of estate. In my experience in the world folks.
A revocable trust, especially when it comes to a person’s house, is a smart move. For many, it’s their largest asset, and it has to be sold and the proceeds get paid to whatever nursing home you end up in, until you run out of money and you qualify for Medicaid. Nursing homes are crazy expensive, I’d rather the sale of my home go to my heirs. Five year look back period btw.
 
  • #9,768
Now I'm thinking about the AG home. I don't recall if LE took evidence from their home? Did AG just allow it, or was there a warrant? They would likely have a security system too? Could be helpful in proof of timeline - when NG left the home and the driver returned. Do they have a cloud subscription? This could rule them out and quash rumors. Unless they're connected to perp and there was a conspiracy? If someone was falsely accusing me of a crime (even a strong implication that I was a "prime suspect"), I would consult with my attorney and publicly deny any part of a vicious implication that I was involved in a crime like this. I wouldn't want any time wasted focusing on me. They would not need a warrant for my car or home. Unless my lawyer strongly advised me not to.
 
  • #9,769
Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY
Pima county assessors website you can just search her name or address
 
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Not her. (If we are speaking about the same person, simply not the sharpest tool, sorry. No.) I think, someone who might work for AG. There is probably a group. The relationship with the boss can be always complex.
Initials AC. But again, that is complete fantasy, I was just responding to someone who suggested someone might want to fill SG's anchor chair. And so I observed there was a rather messy situation at NBC in 2012 where ML facilitated this anchor's exit. SG appeared on the show as the new anchor the next Monday.
 
  • #9,772
I fear looking at WS a year from now and finding this in the Cold Cases forum.
This whole thing doesn't make any sense.
I hope I'm totally wrong and she's found safe within a few days.
Oh, I sure hope she is found. I agree that this entire tragedy doesn't make any sense.
 
  • #9,773
Harvey Levin did an interview with Mark Geragos an A Lister defense attorney. He knows how these guys think. He said family just needs to pay the ransom and hope for the best...without proof of life. I tend to agree. Otherwise nothing may happen at all...NG is killed and the kidnappers may never be found. She might be dead but I don't think they have much choice.
oh lord Mark Geragos LOLOLOL. Too many memories of him
 
  • #9,774
The implication is that there is no more "search" needed. So, does that mean that an arrest is imminent or what on earth does it mean? And if this is "solved", then what's the delay?
Does anyone recall Bryan Koberger arrest? They followed him, watched him wear gloves to take our garbage at his parents, etc. Even after LE "knows" it takes time to get stuff buttoned up. When you know you've got the guy, you've got to get a slam dunk in court. They may be operating with the knowledge she may be deceased. We dont know anything for sure.
 
  • #9,775
Where is the link to a forced entry? As the sheriff has reported to the media that they won't be disclosing this
We went through this earlier today lol She is a verified insider. She doesn't need to post links.

@Aphrodite Jones Thank you for clearing up the 'white van' info.

I can't think of what changed from last night to today, but I was hopeful that we would get some news today :( Maybe they really thought they were on to whoever sent the ransom note. But they were wrong.
 
  • #9,776
First of all, I want to apologize for jumping the gun regarding the white van being found. I got that tip from a valued source this morning, but all these hours later, I went back to my source and the tip was walked back. Unfortunately, there's been a bungled investigation, calling to mind "shades of Jon Benet Ramsey" where misinformation ran rampant. In fact, it seems Donald Trump was also jumping the gun yesterday when he suggested that information from the FBI or DOJ "could come out soon," hinting that a suspect had been identified. That comment was made over 18 hours ago, with no follow up -- yet. All of this leaves us in the dark, hoping that sophisticated FBI devices will be able to identify Nancy's abductor.

LET ME ADD THIS: Savannah is a person of faith who has total belief in the power of prayer. In fact, in 2024, she published a bestseller titled "Mostly What God Does," describing how her faith helped her during the most difficult times in her life. OF COURSE she and her family are praying and believing that Nancy is alive, and why would anyone want to squelch that hope?

At the same time, the intense focus on this case, fueled by the combination of celebrity, crime, and mystery, has become a national obsession. We have not seen this much media coverage since the O.J. Simpson case, and it makes sense that the public wants to help. There ARE signs of forced entry into that house, and many of Nancy's neighbors fear there's a killer on the loose. And meantime, LET US PRAY.

Thanks Aphrodite. This is such a sad situation. Do you know Savannah's family? Brother-in-law?
 
  • #9,777
I also thought that SIL couldn't do it physically without wife's knowing because they live together and he needs an alibi, she would notice that he wasn't at home
Band practice?
 
  • #9,778
A revocable trust, especially when it comes to a person’s house, is a smart move. For many, it’s their largest asset, and it has to be sold and the proceeds get paid to whatever nursing home you end up in, until you run out of money and you qualify for Medicaid. Nursing homes are crazy expensive, I’d rather the sale of my home go to my heirs. Five year look back period btw.
You are correct. Its a brilliant way to protect assets from a nursing home.
 
  • #9,779
I share this opinion someone in the brothers background with military expierence

The focus is on savannahs status but wouldn't a military person be better at avoiding detection
I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..
 
  • #9,780
would like to hear the sheriff say she is alive. That seems odd as he is always careful to just say she will be found.
He's also said, "She's out there." Well, yes, we already know that, Sheriff.
 
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