AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[MadCowWisco]

Anyone know why the family seemingly post these instagram videos around dinner time? Think there's any significance in that?

JMO

Yes yes yes all of this has happen literally within the same timeframes each day

 

[shadowsc]

Here is the entire clip of the anchor from KOLD talking about receiving the second message. I do not get the impression from the anchor that the message said Nancy was deceased. (And the FBI says in this response that SG's video was a response to yesterday's message received by KOLD.)

FBI says that today's Guthrie video was in response to yesterday's message. Just wanted to share since I know some of us were curious whether a new/additional message was received today.

Snips from source: "Savannah Guthrie told the potential kidnappers of her mother Nancy Guthrie on Saturday that the family is prepared to pay for her safe return." [...] "Guthrie was referencing a message that was sent to the Tucson-based television station KOLD on Friday afternoon, according to Kevin Smith, a spokesperson for the FBI office in Phoenix."

Source: 'We will pay,' Savannah Guthrie says in desperate video plea to potential kidnappers of her mother

 

[gammagirl]

that did not look like a family that just saw Proof of Life

i feel it looked like a family who had seen a body part.... moo

 

[judithannegg]

This is what I've been thinking happened. But then my question was where the blood out front came from - maybe it was already there?

I thought maybe she was still alive as she left house. Perpetrator pretended there was a family crisis and wanted her to leave house in her pajamas. Perhaps as they got to door she realized something wasn’t right and a bit of a scuffle thus she got injured. He only needed her to get in car. Suffocate her. Then get out in desert sbd drag her out of car. I wonder if the Circle k has a car wash? Wash desert sand and dust before going home?

 

[Gemmie]

Here is the entire clip of the anchor from KOLD talking about receiving the second message. I do not get the impression that messages said that Nancy was deceased.

I sure hope like heck you are right. I wondered how the media was reacting to it since they had the opportunity to read it.

 

[mikeshanty]

Yes yes yes all of this has happen literally within the same timeframes each day

Engagement levels I assume; social media influencers program their posts or maximum engagement.

 

[Skagirl]

Or because paying ( and knowing they did everything they asked for) is the only way they will feel peace?
Hard to even say that given the situation. More like no regrets?

That‘s an interpretation I hadn’t considered and I like it more than mine.

 

[minazoe]

why wouldn't SG just say we understand our mother has died and we are willing to pay.

something is weird...I think it sounds a little coded or something. mOO

 

[gammagirl]

There is SO much we dont know....

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

Actually 100% agree - I think it’s possible, even likely, the family paid the first ransom prior to the Thursday deadline.

THIS!! I think they did pay. I think the "we understand" came from additional communication that hasn't been made public and that communication indicated that NG had passed away. Come on guys this is an elderly lady with heart issues. With the added distress, IMHO it wouldn't take much for NG to go into cardiac arrest. I think today's video was ok we understand you didn't intentionally kill her even though we paid you--but---we will pay you the rest of what you asked for so that we can have closure and receive our mom's remains back. JMHO

Nevertheless, this whole situation is just so heartbreaking. I sure do hope that somewhere down the line---think of the older cases where the perp is JUST NOW being brought to justice---this perp is held accountable for their actions.

 

[MommaV]

Savannah's opening words "we received your message... and we understand." Everything she said following relates to this.

I can't see how definitive proof of death could be seen on cam footage, in this case anyhow...a body would have to be pretty messed up to confirm being deceased.

Is it possible the message received that they’re responding to has nothing to do with the first two known ransoms? Maybe an additional source of communication was made to them?

 

[katydid23]

I also thought that SIL couldn't do it physically without wife's knowing because they live together and he needs an alibi, she would notice that he wasn't at home

Maybe, maybe not. They have a pretty big new house. SIL likely has a 'man cave' set up somewhere----guest room, garage, guest house? Many middle aged couples have separate spaces they can hang out in at night. I think it's possible he could have taken a secret trip while she was asleep, without her noticing. imo

The main problem might be the cameras at SILs home, if he tried to make a late night drive.

 

[mikeshanty]

why wouldn't SG just say we understand our mother has died and we are willing to pay.

something is weird...I think it sounds a little coded or something. mOO

Because explicitly acknowledging death could escalate or shut down negotiations. Families are often advised to avoid statements that remove incentive for compliance or provoke anger. Keeping language neutral (“return her”) preserves ambiguity and leverage, even when the family fears the worst.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Sorry if this has been talked about or verified, but do they think device on roof was planted by kidnappers?

Sorry, what device on the roof? I've not understood what investigators were doing up on her roof, what they were looking for.......did they find some kind of device? What kind?

 

[Curiousobserver]

Here is the entire clip of the anchor from KOLD talking about receiving the second message. I do not get the impression that messages said that Nancy was deceased.

I hope you’re right

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Who thinks AG died soon after being kidnapped, the murder(s) went on a out their way, and these ransom notes are just a sophisticated way to scam the family?

SG's, "We understand" could be in response to the writer saying. "You think I'm joking. I'm going to do x, y, z to you mom if you don't pay up". MOO


Many pages back. IIRC, it was mentioned it's the 30th anniversary of the movie and that Cameron was wearing a shirt with the same pattern as an actress in the movie. Some speculated the FBI might have suggested the line.

The more I hear, the more I don't know. Where's Stephen King? All of this is totally bizarre!

 

[MommaV]

Sorry, what device on the roof? I've not understood what investigators were doing up on her roof, what they were looking for.......did they find some kind of device? What kind?

A camera

 

[LRinCA]

Just sitting here pondering this Silence of the Lambs angle. Obviously, someone who would kidnap another person is demented to a certain degree. Is it possible that this kidnapper signed his/her note with Buffalo Bill (the name given to the character in SOL) and they are trying to humor this person by responding in kind? Just a wild thought.

 

[ChicagoSleuth]

Is it possible the message received that they’re responding to has nothing to do with the first two known ransoms? Maybe an additional source of communication was made to them?

Per the FBI, today's Guthrie video is in relation to the second/Friday note. Source: 'We will pay,' Savannah Guthrie says in desperate video plea to potential kidnappers of her mother

 

[Sundog]

“We received your message, and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so that we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay.”

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Savannah Guthrie and her siblings have released a new video in which they address whomever abducted their mother. “We received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to...

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Listening to this again, it is possible that the abductor gave the family proof of life in that the abductor relayed something to them that Nancy told them while in captivity. And the family said, basically, okay this is very valuable to us and we will pay. So they took it as proof of life.