AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Can any people familiar with plumbing or house construction determine if this is related to them searching in the tanks today?
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Oh. They could have pumped out septic tank to see if anything was flushed recently that might be identifiable? Maybe a bottle of pills, or lots of blood rinsed down a tub drain??
 
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Yep, my theory too, staged. NG may have never made it home from AG's.
Personally, I don’t believe there was a *staged* kidnapping at the house. There was either a kidnapping, or there wasn’t. As far as the ring doorbell subscription, I’m not sure why everyone assumes family would know that. I have a ring with no subscription. My mom does not know that. She likely has cameras in her retirement community building, but it’s not something I’ve ever given much thought to. I think many people who don’t actually own a ring camera, have no idea that that a recording history is not available without a subscription.
 
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It hasn’t even been said that there IS a warrant.
Warrants are needed unless AG/TC gave their permission?
Don't know because I never experienced a S & S.
 
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People instinctively suspect whoever was:
last to see the person, physically nearby, or involved in routine logistics (rides, visits, caregiving)
That doesn’t mean wrongdoing, it just means access. The public often confuses access with guilt.
I think it highly irresponsible of AB to say what she said about SIL. Rumors are especially dangerous here. Once a name starts circulating confirmation bias kicks in, normal behavior gets reinterpreted, grief responses get judged as guilt or indifference.
That can permanently damage lives, even when police never suspected the person at all.
The phrase “last known person to see her” is incredibly misleading. That’s just a timeline anchor. It is not an accusation. Police treat it as neutral data.
The public treats it like a smoking gun. I believe that’s a mistake.
Investigations don’t follow public logic.
They follow evidence, and evidence unfolds slowly. What’s loud right now is speculation. What’s quiet is the real work.
The public’s understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes is not their operational priority. I do think LEO and FBI and the family know and have known much more than what’s being disclosed. There’s a reason for that. The public knows what they want us to know. Prayers for Nancy and family. MOO
Welcome to WS, @cherryleaf!

I agree with you.
 
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dbm
 
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Please don't let this be another Eliza Lam situation with the tank 😥
 
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Warrants are needed unless AG/TC gave their permission?
Don't know because I never experienced a S & S.
I dont think you can walk up into someone's home and search it without their permission or a warrant.
 
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I am kind of stunned so many obvious hiding spots have gone unchecked for this long, what the heck? They are just NOW checking this?
I am especially perplexed by this considering the fact that Nancy is the mother of a well-known national celebrity and the FBI being involved. With how much news coverage this has been getting from the very beginning, I would have thought they would be checking every square inch of her house/property within the first couple of days, knowing how many millions of people are watching and judging what they do. And for this to have happened a couple of times - going back and getting on roofs/taking a camera - or was it a light - something that they felt they needed at least, and again to check the septic tank. This time they should check everything, bring in metal detectors, ground penetrating radar, etc, so they don’t have to come back a third time and again appear to everyone that they don’t have creative thinking skills.

Then again, I’m not a LE expert and am just a Monday morning quarterback, so it could be that I’m being unreasonable.
 
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Son in law. AG's husband. This thought came about way back and LE has been all over their house at different times, so. Something is up/has been past couple of days at the least. IMO
Thank you. I said I must've totally spaced that I asked that. Lol.
 
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Where has it been stated that this picture was taken the night she went missing? Thank you.

It hasn't been - at least not that I am aware of. Someone mentioned that there was no proof except AG and TC's word that Nancy played Mahjong that night at Annie's. I replied "unless" this picture can be verified to have been taken on Saturday evening. Then the OP replied that they haven't seen that picture, so I posted it. Sorry for any confusion.
 
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I'd be super surprised if she was on her own property. Far too risky for the Perps. I think somewhere in that vast desert nearby, a well known dumping grounds for the criminal element. Of course, I could be wrong - I have been more than a few times.

Amateur opinion and speculation
Sonoran Desert. 90 days to a complete skeleton. Lots of illegal's bodies still there. Reservation land inside Sonoran too. This is real - knew a guy who just parked his trailer in the desert outside of Tucson, lived in it for a while. A remote place in parts.
 
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The son-in-law only came up here due to Ashleigh Banfield saying her LE "source" told her this. Otherwise, he wouldn't be getting this level of (IMO) unfair scrutiny.
Totally agree.
 
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Oh please. I thought we weren’t going to hear from him until Thursday
I don't think that was what was said last week. Im pretty sure they said that there wouldn't be a press conference until they had a reason to give one
 
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Please don't let this be another Eliza Lam situation with the tank 😥
I'm having flashbacks to Monica Burgos, killed by her producer husband Bruce Beresford Redman, and found in a septic tank on the grounds of the Cancun hotel they were staying at. Damn, they were my neighbors.....
 
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Some of us don't have Twitter so link doesn't work! Would be so grateful if folks posting Tweets would give a one-sentence synopsis :) :)
Or just download twitter lol
 
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on one of the vehicles
 

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Warrants are needed unless AG/TC gave their permission?
Don't know because I never experienced a S & S.
IANAL but although technically no warrant is required if the homeowner gives consent to search, in a case like this I would imagine LE would obtain a warrant to avoid evidentiary issues in the event of a prosecution (i.e., the homeowner revoking consent, claiming coercion, etc). JMO.
 

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