Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[keek]

This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.

Being unbiased, 2 minutes is just too short to me but it may of been 'whoever dropped her off' used the garage door remote, but Nancy still has to get out of the car AND ALL THAT, then walk in. I'd think the remote was used as soon as the car had pulled in front of it. I don't see it as I or most would hit the remote, get our bag or if anything and get out of the car, shut the car door, go into the garage and hit the remote to close it again. That could take two minutes but I feel not Nancy who is also saying thank you....the goodbyes. It also shows that perhaps Nancy was not being returned home but another wanted to get into the garage who is fully able and on their own as described, a click to open , shut the car door and go in. IMO

 

[mikeshanty]

I think it will be the SIL. It was the brother-in-law when Jennifer Hudson was caught up in a similar tragedy

 

[CandyKiss]

What if:

- there was a request for a loan by a host at small family gathering, and it was declined
-someone became enraged and another person was injured and died, and the hosts of the gathering try to think what to do
-one of the hosts takes the deceased’s Apple Watch and collects some blood and walks over to the deceased’s house and enters through the garage just before 10pm, backing victims car out of the garage
-that host stages the crime scene, watch and blood.
-that host drives back to his house in victim’s car and puts victim in that car then drives around to find a place to hide the body
-then that host drives back to his house
-the next morning when the hosts go to victims house they take their car and victims car. Enter home by the garage, parking the victims car back in garage before LE comes.

*LE tows victim’s car days later after a license plate reader indicated the car was being driven around that night.

And after that bedtime story/fairy tale, it’s off to dreamland for me! Goodnight, friends!

Interesting scenario; they added the information about NG’s car out after hours.

 

[shonyakay]

It speaks volumes that we still have no idea why anyone felt the need to check on NG at 11:56. Zero has been verified by LE. The whole church story line vanished from the record.

Sooooo like everything else that points directly to our boy Tomasso and possibly Annie too.

Maybe it was a story that LE was given and then Nanos walked it back when investigators couldn't confirm it.

Just a possibility.

 

[birdbox]

My husband, who isn't really following the case, mentioned that someone may have been in the house waiting for her.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020564025726132378

Ah water storage could mean we are going to fill an abandoned tank to see what floats to the top. Has anyone verified this image is from the daughter's home?

 

[browneyes]

I’ve been as glued to this case as everyone here, but after following true crime for years, rarely is a missing person/murder case been solved in a week. But thanks to new technology, more crimes are being solved. LE doesn’t give up, even if the public isn’t privy to the details. Seeing Savannah and her siblings so destroyed kills me, but there are hundreds of other families we don’t get to connect with, because they aren’t celebrities. Having said that, I hope Nancy is found soon. So sad to think what has happened to her.

 

[JKathryn]

@MassGuy

On the one hand, it can be an evil hoax, with some crypto miners sitting in a faraway country and organizing it all.

But the strangest thing - it could be just a young person, very good with bypassing computer security, who abducted someone who was easy to get to, for money. We assume that some 16-year-old lawn mower is what he is, some loser, but he may be brilliant in computers due to his age.

This is a well-known story. A Finnish hacker and what he did. Started at fourteen and ruined so many lives.

He called himself an ‘untouchable hacker god’. But who was behind the biggest crime Finland has ever known?

How would you feel if your therapist’s notes – your darkest thoughts and deepest feelings – were exposed to the world? For 33,000 Finnish people, that became a terrifying reality, with deadly consequences

www.theguardian.com

I had thought about this or even that someone had access through AGs son, knowingly or unknowingly. But they did not seem to remove computers (that we saw) so I told myself to dismiss it.

 

[ArabianLover]

I think there might be some family tension/dysfunction going on.

SG is the golden girl---wildly successful, famous, talented, very wealthy, AND she does not have to do the heavy lifting with their Mom's daily life. She has huge worldly concerns and she has fame and fortune. There's nothing wrong with that.

But AG is living a very different life from SG's.

AG and TC were reportedly the caregivers for Nancy. It is a lot of work. I know everyone is saying NG is as sharp as a tack and very independent, etc. But there are still a lot of things that she would need help with in many ways. It is kind of a thankless job.

I've seen this kind of family dynamic before---the Golden Child is celebrated and put on a pedestal in Mama's eyes, and when they return to the hometown, there is great fanfare and excitement etc.

The child that stays home to do the boring caregiver type things gets very little attention or reward. In fact they get some negative attention because they need to remind elderly parents to take their meds, go to the doctor appts, and convince them they are getting too old to drive safely or to take care of their own finances etc.

It can become tense and divisive. I've seen how it works sometimes.

It would not surprise me if there were some rifts in the family and perhaps involving finances.

Add to that brother is a celebrated fighter pilot. Other daughter is a poet. Which should be fine. But it’s not if you’re dealing with unstable people with jealousy issues.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

That photo is not said to have been taken from the mahjong dinner night. It could have been from 2 years ago who knows.

I've had older family members on blood thinners and it was rare for them not to have a bandaid on somewhere on their body. With thinner skin as we age and with a blood thinner, it's so easy to casually brush against something and have

I was under the impression that when the FBI took the reigns from local LE they were starting over from square one and doing all of the things that local LE may not have had the resources to do.

Or possibly repeating what LE had done, just to double-check and make sure that there wasn't anything in the septic tank etc

 

[allboys]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I’m starting to wonder if this was a robbery that she witnessed and/or heard voices in her house and then had a medical emergency as a result and then the robbers tried to hide the evidence. It doesn’t change much, but just something I hadn’t considered before. MOO.

I hope that I’m wrong and that she is alive. My heart aches for her and her family.

ETA: the word “celebrate” is very odd to me. I have a feeling it is a direct reference to something said in the second note. I know she just had a birthday and I’m sure there’s SOMEONE in the family with an event coming up (birthday, promotion, who knows). It also could mean celebration of life as others said but I just really, really feel that it’s a direct reference to the second note.

She said “Celebrate with her.” I don’t think people would phrase it that way for a Celebration of Life ceremony. IMO

 

[IceIce9]

dog could have barked during the kidnapping (or whatever it was) but. would anyone hear it out there with coyotes howling?

Coyotes were howling?

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

Seems like her Apple Watch data would have indicated a huge jump in pulse rate if she interrupted a robbery. Plus if she got home at 10(ish) then why nothing going on with the Ring camera til almost 2?

We don’t know if there wasn’t a jump in her HR or not. They haven’t really said one way or another. Whether she had a medical emergency, was physically harmed, or kidnapped, I’d imagine she had a spike in her heart rate, though. I don’t believe we know if she was even wearing her watch.

Also LE themselves have said they don’t know what exactly it was that the ring camera caught. My ring has gone off saying “person detected” when there’s a bug flying too close to it. Either way, I think the people left the house around 2 AM but we don’t really know what time they entered.

 

[FSUSeminoles]

IMO they are looking for evidence tossed in whatever holes these are. If they were looking for a body, I imagine much more LE, tents up, media moved back, etc..

 

[birdbox]

Weird question but was NG Uber visit to AG house a planned event or her showing up unexpected, like a mom might show up if worried about their daughter or grandchild to intervene or smooth things over?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I just got this fear of thinking maybe they know absolutely nothing? Is that even possible in a week not to know anything? Do you think they still don't know if the ransom note is just noise?

fear went through me as well......
IF they are looking in wells with no gloves or masks.... are they just pretending to be working here?

 

[TristanP]

This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.

As with everything, there’s always an alternative explanation. Maybe they opened the garage door and then she decided she wanted to go in through the front door, so the garage door was closed. Maybe they sat and chatted in the car and she was ready to launch as soon as the garage door opened.

 

[samaor]

This is part of what stands out to me as well. That 2 minute drop off. My mother who was also in her mid to late 80’s and also had mobility issues also used the garage to go in & out. Just the process of her getting the remote out of her purse, pushing the button and replacing the remote back into her purse took longer than 2 minutes. The unbuckling, gathering her things & walking SLOWLY into the house was at least a 10-15 minute event.

Imo, Nancy never returned to her home.

BBM. I completely agree with your last sentence.

 

[keek]

I think it will be the SIL. It was the brother-in-law when Jennifer Hudson was caught up in a similar tragedy

That was unthinkable, horrific.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Weird question but was NG Uber visit to AG house a planned event or her showing up unexpected, like a mom might show up if worried about their daughter or grandchild to intervene or smooth things over?

Pretty sure the event at AG's house was Nancy's birthday.... I think her actual bday was just the day before.

 

[allboys]

I was under the impression that when the FBI took the reins from local LE they were starting over from square one and doing all of the things that local LE may not have had the resources to do.

Is it the FBI that is there today?