I see a large head.Look at shoulder breadth and gait. I see male
I see a large head.Look at shoulder breadth and gait. I see male
I would like to hear what the FBI thinks now.Then the ransom is real?
MOO men often get the better longer lashes. IMO that is a male.Gah, I've missed so much on this thread this mornng!! I only just watched the released door cam footage. A few things come to mind (likely already discussed pages ago):
1. Calm, cool and collected and not in any rush. Doesn't seem nervous. Experienced in functioning under pressure?
2. To me, looks/seems like a young person
3. So only 1 perp? Not 2? He has to be very fit/strong to carry her out on his own
4. He seemed prepared and persistent. The camera obstacle and risk didn't slow him down nor did he move onto another house if just a B&E. He wanted in that house. Reminds me of BK from Idaho 4 a bit in that regard
5. Can't tell his size... build and height? I'll try to read back to see as I'm sure FBI have measurements
6. Sounds like they're saying it's a man, but the face shot looks very feminine to me... the eyes... like wearing mascara???
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Not sure if someone already commented on this as it is hard to keep up with this thread but one thing I noticed when intially looking at the crime scene photos... some of the dried blood droplets near the front door had flowers on top of them. I guess they could have been blown around by the wind but if not, that would mean the blood was there before the flowers.And he walked to purposely miss the blood droplets area imo. Maybe blood droplets not yet at area. Why would he need a gun to abduct an 84 year old frail woman who had health issues and mobility problems? Seems like NG was not at house when the gun guy showed up. Seems staged
My understanding is that it was for someone in the mediaBREAKING: "Sick prankster" calls for Domino's pizza delivery to Nancy Guthrie's house:
Could this be the kidnappers teasing LE?
not necessarily, if she died at the trauma or shortly thereafterThen the ransom is real?
I’m not stating NG doesn’t have life insurance, but most term insurance jumps significantly in price once you turn 80 years old. She may have whole life insurance or annuities & other assets.I think the ins. has been the ultimate goal, not the ransom, that one does not know if even paid, so if she is assumed as having passed then who would have to gain. the ransom does not seem to be the goal, but the ins. she does not need to be alive to have make out that door.
I think he is going to have to be identified by body habitus and clothing, cuz that face is likely disguised...
I see a man in 20's/30's....?
I think the ins. has been the ultimate goal, not the ransom, that one does not know if even paid, so if she is assumed as having passed then who would have to gain. the ransom does not seem to be the goal, but the ins. she does not need to be alive to have make out that door.
There was a full moon that night so it would have been fairly bright actuallyIt looked to me like he was looking for the step so he didn’t trip it over it. That’s why the flashlight is briefly switched on. Remember this would have been in the pitch black.
Unless they were focusing in on the SIL and one of his friends of associates, meaning that he wasn’t behind it but the connection is to him, to someone he knew or knows, or he owed something to. However, I’d think if it was a possible friend or associate they’d know who that person most likely was by now - unless they have someone under surveillance and are waiting for them to freak out over these images/video and make a run for it, or make some calls. They could be monitoring their phone activity. If a camera was indeed placed on the roof, they may have finger prints or even DNA. They may be waiting for some movement from someone.I tend to agree at this point.
Emphasis mine.This guy came prepared. Someone paid him to do this, don’t you think ? It wouldn’t be just a break in or rape the way he is loaded down. Maybe someone wanted her out of the way ? Maybe there really was a ransom but she passed and they can’t deliver ?
Why do they keep involving AG's house in the incident that occurred at her own house?I was around the corner from Annie Guthrie's house on the main road earlier today and just so happened to see a group of investigators walk into a business. I went inside and they were asking an employee for a copy of surveillance video from an outdoor camera between Jan 31st at 9:30 pm and Feb 1st at 11:30 am.
I agree. With all the video in the Missy Bevers case — here we sit in the DFW area with no arrests. I think this was to stage the scene OR someone was already inside the house and this person was doing prep work. I think it still could be female. But so glad we have something to look at!! How frightening to look at your camera alert on your phone and see this. This is my worst nightmare.well this could have just been the person who came by to stage a kidnapping
(if she never made it back from dinner)
After Kohberger...they all know to take care of distinguishing features like bushy eyebrows....not saying he had bushy eyebrows but he sure doesn't now. He is still a hair face though with the mustache.But the groomed eyebrows.....
He does not have shaped eyebrows. The contrasting stitching area around the eyes covers most of his eyebrows. The IR light makes that stitching blend in with his skintone in the photos and video.A white guy with those pruned sharpie eyebrows? Idk
-def. attempt at disguise (yet has reflective backpack)
-heavy nitrile gloves - bulky but def. hide fingerprints
-strange holster arrangement front crotch, open carry. I don't get it.
-displays latanas with seeming purpose to camera