• #18,601
I believe having a timestamp on the videos or still images would be beneficial. Is it possible that these pictures and video were taken prior to her arrival? For instance, could he have been inside the house before she returned at 9:48? I welcome any insights or perspectives.
 
  • #18,602
Thank you for that explanation. Is anyone really certain that she didn’t have a sub? I mean… it would seem very unlikely for me to have considerable wealth and not renew a security sub for my 84 yo mother who also lives alone, sometimes (?) is staff only there during the day? If that were the case I would definitely remember to pay for this. Or the accountant I pay for should. It’s seems like there’s no way this could be true. I only have an Alexa and I can “drop in” why would NG be the only one to receive a notification she may/not have heard?
Yes. The Sheriff Nanos stated this explicitly early on that they were working with the company cause she didn't have an active subscription (could have lapsed) adding difficulty getting the footage.

Nest dug this off their servers after days. If anything this proves that they store your footage on their server they have it regardless what they tell you when you don't have access to it with no subscription.
 
  • #18,603
The fact that they are searching AG's neighborhood now, and not NG's, after those pics and videos came out is to me a major tell. And my spidey senses are telling me that they are zeroing in on a person or combo of people including the SIL, SIL's friend(s), AG.
 
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SAR truck. The word "rescue"gives me a glimmer of hope.
 
  • #18,606
Does anyone have a yt channel/x account they recommend watching/following in order to have the most up to date info. Not sure if it’s being covered on American news channels. But I’m outside of America and it’s not a story here really.
Just two out of many:


Or

 
  • #18,607
This video shows him moving slow. Why even bother with the flowers by the time he grabs them and puts them up in front of the camera?
Because he’s not smart. MOO of course :)
 
  • #18,608
I didn’t want to think SIL was involved but clearly LE does seem to think he is. I wonder what evidence they’ve found tying him to it? The guy at the door isn’t SIL and he looks younger than their age demographic, who could it be? All so complex and horrible 😭
If it’s not SIL, it feels like it may be someone associated with him? That doesn’t necessarily mean SIL is involved.
 
  • #18,609
YECCH How many people have contaminated the blood evidence on the walkway TO the front door?
Seriously, why was the crime scene immediately opened with the blood still there and the weeds the perp touched still littered everywhere? This entire thing has been mystifying.
 
  • #18,610
I think they are definitely searching all of this clothing and gear — everything looks BRAND new! And moving stiffly , wearing a lot of layers of new clothing.
Hopefully this person is nice and stupid and bought it all in the same place!
Walmart 😁
 
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DBM
 
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The jacket worn looks to not have a collar or cuffs, a distinctive strip across the chest and piping along the zipper. I have looked at literally hundreds of men’s jackets and athletic tops on Amazon and have not come across even one that is similar. So maybe that jacket could be easily recognized by someone that knows this person.
 

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Seriously, why was the crime scene immediately opened with the blood still there and the weeds the perp touched still littered everywhere? This entire thing has been mystifying.
And why was the house (NG's) left unguarded for so many days? MOO/IMO, etc.
 
  • #18,614
Was is this on the backpack? You can kind of see it better on the video.View attachment 643396
FYI this is from the FBI in Phoenix
(Mod added link. Please remember to ad links to your photos. Since this came identified as from the FBI it made it easier to fix
I'm way behind, so likely already answered, but this is the female end of the buckle that you can use to go between the backpack straps. You see the longer strap with the male end attached to the other backpack strap in another image.
 
  • #18,615
Seriously, why was the crime scene immediately opened with the blood still there and the weeds the perp touched still littered everywhere? This entire thing has been mystifying.
Once LE processes a scene they don't clean up. That's up to the family/owners. If photos were already taken and samples collected then it doesn't matter that the blood is still there.

JMO
 
  • #18,616
The jacket worn looks to not have a collar or cuffs, a distinctive strip across the chest and piping along the zipper. I have looked at literally hundreds of men’s jackets and athletic tops on Amazon and have not come across even one that is similar. So maybe that jacket could be easily recognized by someone that knows this person.
Nautica makes one - or made one - with a similar stripe across the chest. I posted a link earlier in the thread.
 
  • #18,617
Now talking to other AG neighbors
Possibly asking about movement of vehicles, coming and going at night or other important times (from AG's house)
 
  • #18,618
Yes. The Sheriff Nanos stated this explicitly early on that they were working with the company cause she didn't have an active subscription (could have lapsed) adding difficulty getting the footage.

Nest dug this off their servers after days. If anything this proves that they store your footage on their server they have it regardless what they tell you when you don't have access to it with no subscription.
One theory is she opted in to video event feedback or something.

That allows nest to help troubleshoot issues and improve the product.

Regardless, the fact that it took them over a week to recover this stuff shows that it’s not easily accessible, even to Google.
 
  • #18,619
I didn’t want to think SIL was involved but clearly LE does seem to think he is. I wonder what evidence they’ve found tying him to it? The guy at the door isn’t SIL and he looks younger than their age demographic, who could it be? All so complex and horrible 😭
I mean if anything I would think this video helps support the idea he isn't involved imo. I mean who kills an 84 year old with a heart condition for the inheritance - if someone is worried about getting the inheritance time is on their side here
If it’s not SIL, it feels like it may be someone associated with him? That doesn’t necessarily mean SIL is involved.
Yes it is likely someone familiar to the family/NG - I would think b/c usually it isn't random..but that again can mean acquaintances, neighbors, household staff etc.
 
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