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They needed to test those stems! (Even before these video images were accessed). I realize suspect is wearing gloves but he/she could have touched personal items with the gloves (transfer or trace dna.) IMO.It appears the lantana stems at the front door come from this suspect? Horrified!
And there was an Amazon package left in the doorway later. May mean nothing.Looks like an Amazon delivery guy?
Maybe they didn't want to kill her, only receive a ransom.After seeing the pics/videos of the suspect, it's hard for me to believe AG or SIL were involved. NG is 84 years old with mobility and other health issues. If they wanted to kill her they could just literally push her and then claim she fell. Even if it was an argument that got too heated and she was struck by one of them... they could just say she fell. I don't think the police would look too much into it, especially if they were to call 911 right after it.
This all of this...After seeing the pics/videos of the suspect, it's hard for me to believe AG or SIL were involved. NG is 84 years old with mobility and other health issues. If they wanted to kill her they could just literally push her and then claim she fell. Even if it was an argument that got too heated and she was struck by one of them... they could just say she fell. I don't think the police would look too much into it, especially if they were to call 911 right after it.
Doesn't look like the same build to me, and this guy is not even trying to disguise himself. He's in his work vest and presumably taking pictures into someone's window.
THAT should have DNA
I live in Arizona and I've seen people on NextDoor posting about these people who mill around looking at their meters. A day later or so they come around and say the are with Arizona Power (or whatever it's called, my husband pays the bills) and they've noticed they are using a lot of electricity. It's a scam from solar salespeople, or supposed solar salespeople. They are a REAL nuisance in our community (55+ golf community in the middle of the desert).
Now they are in that house with the trailer in the yard.The officer checked the neighbor's trailer and left.
The shape of the head! MOO
it could be sil is involved or ... that he recognizes the picture released as someone he has seen around the neighborhoodJust wondering, but are they maybe looking for camera recordings to see if the SIL vehicle was followed that night when he took NG home?
I know a lot of people are saying that they now doubt she even made it home, but we clearly see the people on her porch and the blood so...MOO...I think she was clearly taken home and then abducted.
Maybe they think they're from a neighboring home?
Maybe it appeared unguarded but wasn’t? Perhaps they were hoping the perp would return? Something to consider…And why was the house (NG's) left unguarded for so many days? MOO/IMO, etc.
Unless someone needs money NOW and really can’t wait.I mean if anything I would think this video helps support the idea he isn't involved imo. I mean who kills an 84 year old with a heart condition for the inheritance - if someone is worried about getting the inheritance time is on their side here
Yes it is likely someone familiar to the family/NG - I would think b/c usually it isn't random..but that again can mean acquaintances, neighbors, household staff etc.
Thank you, i deleted my reply to this vidJust an FYI this guy on twitter has been posting stupid theories all week. And most of his stuff is his own opinion and not actual reporting.
Could be a reporter’s. I would think investigators would have taken it if it had been there day one.
at least something traceable if it is one of the perps. Glad it was clarified what that was...THAT should have DNA
I’ve been thinking a lot about this. I wonder if maybe they were hoping the perpetrator would return to the scene and they had it under careful surveillance the whole time?Seriously, why was the crime scene immediately opened with the blood still there and the weeds the perp touched still littered everywhere? This entire thing has been mystifying.
There are thin cuffs on the jacket. They can be seen on other photos, too. It looks like a fleece jacket. I have Columbia fleece jackets that look just like this, including a strip across the chest. I’m not suggesting it’s a Columbia jacket but is a very common looking jacket to me.The jacket worn looks to not have a collar or cuffs, a distinctive strip across the chest and piping along the zipper. I have looked at literally hundreds of men’s jackets and athletic tops on Amazon and have not come across even one that is similar. So maybe that jacket could be easily recognized by someone that knows this person.