AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Luckily someone called family when she didn't show up for church. The abductors may not have realized how quickly she would be reported missing. She has really caring family and friends. I hope she is found soon.
 
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I think this is going to be a sexually motivated homicide committed by a stranger, or a relative stranger.

In the first two examples, you'd expect to find a body.
This theory is as good as any. We simply don’t have much to go on. I don’t have a strong feeling one way or the other, but I wouldn’t throw out the possibility of this being politically motivated. When it comes to politics, some people are loose cannons. The behaviors of loose cannons don’t make any sense. Someone posted that Savannah made snarky comments about ICE. Her mother posted (publically?) about ICE on her Facebook page. Should this demonstration of opinion possibly lead to a crime? Of course not. These are crazy times. I hope she is found safe.
 
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i forget which source reported it, but i think the letter said they wanted the money by thursday or they'd kill her on monday. since she went missing between saturday the 31st and sunday the 1st, that has to be this upcoming thursday and monday.

I can no longer find a source that says the deadline. But if it's Thursday or next Monday that's a REALLY long window of time to give from a kidnapping that took place on Saturday night.

If that's true, I definitely don't believe the note comes from the kidnappers. Keeping Nancy hidden, keeping her alive, not getting caught, you wouldn't give like, five working days for the family to come up with the money, would you? Much too risky.
 
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Monday as in yesterday or next Monday?
I don’t know when I read the article it only said Monday this was the Arizona news I can’t remember the name of it but they also received a ransom email
 
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Monday as in yesterday or next Monday?
This is why I think the ransom letter was an afterthought and bs. TMZ got their letter Tuesday today. I've never heard of a kidnapper giving a whole week to give them money if Its next Monday.
 
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My opinion here...none of us really know her schedule in her home. My parents stayed up late watching tv or scrolling on their computers before my mom passed. Now my dad lays down earlyish. But he's usually up around 9-10 am. He recently got sick with the flu and the red flag was him not answering his phone. My sister lives 3 blocks away and checked on him. A week in the hospital and my 83 yr old independent dad is still using a walker and has pt/ot coming. He'll regain his strength but I know he's doing better because he's back in his routine. Some people stay up really late. Some people sleep for a few hours, get up for a while and lay back down. All that to say NG's family knows her routine. It's possible someone with ill intentions figured out her routine as well. All my opinion and I'm praying for her and the family. These older adults are some strong independent people! And I admire that about them
 
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Just a question for any computer person. Will they be able to track the IPS address from the ransom emails?
 
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i forget which source reported it, but i think the letter said they wanted the money by thursday or they'd kill her on monday. since she went missing between saturday the 31st and sunday the 1st, that has to be this upcoming thursday and monday.

I also remember Thursday was deadline for money.
 
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This theory is as good as any. We simply don’t have much to go on. I don’t have a strong feeling one way or the other, but I wouldn’t throw out the possibility of this being politically motivated. When it comes to politics, some people are loose cannons. The behaviors of loose cannons don’t make any sense. Someone posted that Savannah made snarky comments about ICE. Her mother posted (publically?) about ICE on her Facebook page. Should this demonstration of opinion possibly lead to a crime? Of course not. These are crazy times. I hope she is found safe.
I've wondered about this too. Tensions are high, and unfortunately we've seen a lot of things lately that would have seemed unbelievable and shocking not so long ago. :(
 
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Oh dear, I am 40 pages behind, and have given up all hope of catching up. This latest news re bitcoin for ransom is - I don't know what to call it. I'd like to think it's hopeful, I really would. But it could be anyone latching on. It just seems unlikely to be from the actual perp.
 
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There are no streetlights in that Catalina Foothills neighborhood, a feature praised by stargazers but one that can help someone with ill intent to act with the benefit of no light.

With the streets in pitch blackness, some neighbors said their cameras don't capture much more than the immediate surroundings of their home. The neighborhood gets "pretty dark" at night, Lane said.

"It’s not a trick-or-treat kind of neighborhood, if you get my drift," she added.

Mary Wombat, 65, who has lived in the neighborhood for 50 years, said her security camera captured a black bear near her house three times. One of the times, it was just after sunrise. For the other two, she said, the bear got close enough to trip over a light and the camera.

"This is how rural we are," Wombat said.

 

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I’m calling 911 before I let LE in. They could be disguised as LE, anyone can wear a uniform.
This is even a good option if you are being pulled over by an unmarked car or in a location that isn't safe to stop. You call 911 and tell them where you are and that you are driving to an area that is well lit or you can ask if a LEO is actually pulling you over and then 911 can radio the patrol car to let them know. We can't be too careful today.
 
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I've wondered about this too. Tensions are high, and unfortunately we've seen a lot of things lately that would have seemed unbelievable and shocking not so long ago. :(
People are way more un-hinged than they used to be even 10 years ago IMO.
 
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Forced entry could simply be someone knocked, she started to open the door and thought better of it but before she could close and lock it, he overpowered her and forced the door open.
 
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Here is Brian Entin's latest video: (34 min length)

On the scene: blood found at Nancy Guthrie’s home, ripped off ring camera, and ransom notes​


 
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This is even a good option if you are being pulled over by an unmarked car or in a location that isn't safe to stop. You call 911 and tell them where you are and that you are driving to an area that is well lit or you can ask if a LEO is actually pulling you over and then 911 can radio the patrol car to let them know. We can't be too careful today.
Very true. Especially at this time, we have a lot of law enforcement visitors in our city right now.
 
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In this video from CBS it looks like - along with the blood - maybe the remnants of a bunch of flowers, or possibly a plant has been disturbed?


ETA: time in video 0.26
This is such an odd place for blood like this. It would appear the person was stationary right there for a period of time in order to have that many drops clustered together. It seems more this would be someone trying to get in and they cut themselves and continued to drip some blood their while they were trying to get in. I am trying to think of any reason Nancy would be standing or being held right there for any length of time dripping blood like that?? If they were taking her to the car out the front door, why would so many drops be there? I'd imagine more of a line of drops going down the walkway toward a car and not so many clustered together. IMO
 
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To me it looks like the deadbolt and doorknob are different from one another. I’m assuming that when that door was originally installed, they would’ve matched. Now, it’s possible that one failed in the past and needed to be replaced before the other one failed. If so, I definitely would’ve only replaced the one that was no longer working, even if I couldn’t get an exact match, because I’m cheap. However, I do think some people that take a lot of pride in their home may replace them both at the same time to give them a uniform appearance, especially on the front door where people enter. All that to say, maybe the deadbolt or knob did have signs of forced entry but it has since been replaced so the house could stay secure. All IMO.

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This is why I think the ransom letter was an afterthought and bs. TMZ got their letter Tuesday today. I've never heard of a kidnapper giving a whole week to give them money if Its next Monday.
Let's say this is a legit ransom note. Do they have Nancy's life-saving medicine? If so, then it has to be someone with intimate knowledge of her needs. (Like a close friend, or a housekeeper) If the kidnappers are giving until Thursday for the money, then they have means of keeping her alive.
 

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