AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[sasha17]

Here is the biggest thing I don't understand. My mom was diagnosed with Early On-set Alzheimer's and when I was her caregiver before she passed in April one of the things I purchased was a Ring Camera. It was SOOO beyond helpful to me to be able to have downtime and be upstairs in my bedroom on my PC. I was able to login into it, my sister could login from her own house. Even if she had not logged into it all the time if something happend I could have her open the app and go back to look at something that happened.

As I understand the camera's in Nancy's house were all taken down. What I don't understand is how no one is able to go back on footage and see the person on there before the removing of the cameras? Are door Ring camera's different? IDK you would just think LE would have a picture of a suspect out by now. Like I said I know the camera I had detected ANY and ALL movement.

It sounds like only 8 hours at a time were available and then recorded over:

Just watched the Nancy Grace interview on Fox. She stated that it (doorbell camera) WAS NOT connected to the cloud, only connected to a server in the home. She also said it records over every 8 hours and LE is working now to recreate the images. She didn't give up her source.

 

[auburnmomof2]

I think it probably depends on the model of pacemaker and the app it uses. A lot of older third-party healthcare devices don't sync to watches per se; they feed to the device's app on an iPhone, and that info feeds to the app on the watch.

To use a different healthcare device as an example (one I am more familiar with): most of Dexcom's continuous glucose monitors (CGMs) for diabetics sync to the Dexcom app on their phone, which they can use to monitor their own CGM. They can also grant others access, so loved ones can check in on the diabetic person's numbers in real time and get alarms on their own "Follow" app if they get dangerously low blood sugar or have another urgent situation. My guess is that pacemakers might have similar app functions depending on the manufacturer.

I did a little looking into it, though, and it seems like Dexcom's most recent CGM model can sync directly to an Apple Watch - cool technological advance! My guess is that pacemaker technology is similar as far as progress. So how it works for Mrs. Guthrie's pacemaker probably depends on what kind of pacemaker she has and how old it is.

Another thing to consider with healthcare devices is that monitoring and access have to be pretty secure and controlled. Both for privacy and to minimize vulnerabilities that could be hacked and endanger the patient's life (unfortunately, that exists).

JMO

Exactly this! Dexcom's alerts have literally saved my son's life. I am if the understanding that a pacemaker app alerts a call center or doctor if there's any concerns. But I could be wrong

 

[soap mama]

Here is the biggest thing I don't understand. My mom was diagnosed with Early On-set Alzheimer's and when I was her caregiver before she passed in April one of the things I purchased was a Ring Camera. It was SOOO beyond helpful to me to be able to have downtime and be upstairs in my bedroom on my PC. I was able to login into it, my sister could login from her own house. Even if she had not logged into it all the time if something happend I could have her open the app and go back to look at something that happened.

As I understand the camera's in Nancy's house were all taken down. What I don't understand is how no one is able to go back on footage and see the person on there before the removing of the cameras? Are door Ring camera's different? IDK you would just think LE would have a picture of a suspect out by now. Like I said I know the camera I had detected ANY and ALL movement.

I saw the empty ring bracket at the front door on a Brian Entin clip. Perhaps it was removed before this bc it didn't look damaged.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018800434371284998

 

[snoopy100]

Here is the biggest thing I don't understand. My mom was diagnosed with Early On-set Alzheimer's and when I was her caregiver before she passed in April one of the things I purchased was a Ring Camera. It was SOOO beyond helpful to me to be able to have downtime and be upstairs in my bedroom on my PC. I was able to login into it, my sister could login from her own house. Even if she had not logged into it all the time if something happend I could have her open the app and go back to look at something that happened.

As I understand the camera's in Nancy's house were all taken down. What I don't understand is how no one is able to go back on footage and see the person on there before the removing of the cameras? Are door Ring camera's different? IDK you would just think LE would have a picture of a suspect out by now. Like I said I know the camera I had detected ANY and ALL movement.

it was a google nest camera. i've seen conflicting info in this thread that google nest footage overwrites every three hours, every eight hours, and that it syncs to the cloud.

i'm guessing since they have no suspect and no images have been released that it's one of the former ones and it could be really difficult to recover the footage. if it's local to the device/app, it might be impossible.

 

[txsleuth70]

This bothered me as well- so law enforcement isn’t working with the family regarding the letter?

SG's statement about this might have been to make the captor think that LE didn't receive a letter (if one was sent). So in that case, sibs would have only heard about the letter sent to media. Also, it doesn't validate that the letters received are actually real from the real captor, in the case they aren't.

 

[SMK777]

What do you mean?

For example, if there was an argument with someone who worked for her over money missing, and she threatened to call police, they may have harmed her and staged a kidnapping as a ruse, to point interest elsewhere .

 

[auburnmomof2]

I watched the one from an hour ago

BE latest? The video up thread?

 

[Arkay]

I remember when proof of life typically was a photo of someone holding a newspaper with that day’s date on it.

In this age of artificial intelligence, as Savannah emphasized, voices and images can readily be altered. We’ve all seen deepfakes of celebrities.

I would have to guess that in today’s world, proof of life would have to be talking to the mother directly, not just hearing the mother’s voice. Asking her questions with answers she would know. Or a video of her in real time, but with the ability for two-way conversation.

Something that really is proof of life, and not just proof of advanced manipulation and trickery.

JMO

 

[Vegasgrl]

there's limited info.

TMZ received one and they reported that the letter identified something nancy was not wearing when she was abducted, as well as items in the home that were damaged.

KGUN received one and they reported that the letter requested millions in bitcoin to be deposited into a wallet (confirmed to be a real bitcoin wallet) and that if they didn't receive the amount by thursday (tomorrow), she'd be killed on monday (next week).

While reading your post I had a new thought. Maybe these strange discrepancies are due to the fact that English isn't the author's first language? For instance, day of the week isn't correct? It will be interesting to look at the entire message if it is eventually published (I think it will be published). So, maybe it was rushed and not carefully reviewed before sending, because they were more concerned about the Bitcoin information being correct.

 

[WillenFan21]

it was a google nest camera. i've seen conflicting info in this thread that google nest footage overwrites every three hours, every eight hours, and that it syncs to the cloud.

i'm guessing since they have no suspect and no images have been released that it's one of the former ones and it could be really difficult to recover the footage. if it's local to the device/app, it might be impossible.

OOH ok this makes a lot of sense!! Thank you.

EDIT: Just googled and if you have a subscription it can get up to 60 days of footage so still makes no sense!! WTF

 

[Van Helsing]

Here is the biggest thing I don't understand. My mom was diagnosed with Early On-set Alzheimer's and when I was her caregiver before she passed in April one of the things I purchased was a Ring Camera. It was SOOO beyond helpful to me to be able to have downtime and be upstairs in my bedroom on my PC. I was able to login into it, my sister could login from her own house. Even if she had not logged into it all the time if something happend I could have her open the app and go back to look at something that happened.

As I understand the camera's in Nancy's house were all taken down. What I don't understand is how no one is able to go back on footage and see the person on there before the removing of the cameras? Are door Ring camera's different? IDK you would just think LE would have a picture of a suspect out by now. Like I said I know the camera I had detected ANY and ALL movement.

I wonder if the cameras were disabled sometime before their removal.

 

[ghost187]

Distraction on or related to immigration status , mmmmm ? Whats their opinions on ICE , CBP ?

 

[CuriousCricket]

I think the FBI set up the tripod for the camera. So they certainly are working with them.

My question is how are these ransom bandits supposed to contact with proof of life?? Can't keep emailing tmz, can they??

Maybe. In the past, the kidnap victim was pictured with a morning edition of the newspaper. In today's video world, why not have Nancy address her children, referencing something said in the video plea and something new known only inside the family, while the opening story of the Thursday morning edition of the Today Show plays on a screen behind her? Or some other show that the time can be easily verified? Then email the video to tmz and other media through whatever "bouncing around" antics computer savvy people do.

 

[supernothing]

Regarding the pacemaker.

It was reported all over that Nancy was taken around 2am.

However I think it's important to explain that a pacemaker doesn't, and can't directly sync to an apple watch. No smart watch has this capability from what I can find.

I know my aunt has a pacemaker which does transmit data, but this isn't to a smart watch or phone..it's to a specialist device and it's called a "cardio messenger". It does this once only every 24 hours during the night to record and capture the previous 24 hours activity. If for whatever reason the person isn't in range of the home device at the scheduled time for data transfer, the pacemaker continues doing its job and will sync the data once back in range.

So I think the pacemaker and apple watch statement is a little jumbled. What I am guessing is, the sheriff meant that her pacemaker transmitted data at 2am which is the once daily usual time for it to do so. This takes matter of seconds. I don't know what device Nancy has and if there is the capability for the technical department of the device can see when the device actually goes OUT of range of the cardio messenger or similar home device. If so this is helpful but not necessarily possible unless the daily preset transfer of data has been missed.

However what this tells me is, Nancy was alive and in her bed at 2am when the data was transmitted. It may be they were on the ball to contact the pacemaker company and they are able to see the exact time the pacemaker was removed from range which isn't something that would be readily available. OR it could be even the sheriff is not fully aware of the technical side of this and actually based on the pacemaker alone, Nancy could have been taken anytime AFTER 2am since the pacemaker wouldn't be due to transmit data for another 24 hours.

If it's the first scenario where the tech company has provided the exact time Nancy wasn't in range of her home device they will also have data up until the point of the transmission related to her heart which could give some more details (suddenly spike in HR, etc)

Sorry for the lengthy post but I just wanted to mention incase others were also scratching their head at a pacemaker syncing to an apple watch.

 

[WillenFan21]

I wonder if the cameras were disabled sometime before their removal.

Interesting info I found on Google about the GOOGLE nest camera:

To turn off a Nest camera, use the Google Home app by selecting the camera and using the "Turn off camera" option in the menu (three dots), or if it's a Nest Hub with a physical switch, use the hardware button on the device itself. For Nest Cams managed in the Nest app, tap the camera on the home screen and toggle the switch next to "Camera On/Off" in Settings.

 

[NanZDrew]

Regarding the pacemaker.

It was reported all over that Nancy was taken around 2am.

However I think it's important to explain that a pacemaker doesn't, and can't directly sync to an apple watch. No smart watch has this capability from what I can find.

I know my aunt has a pacemaker which does transmit data, but this isn't to a smart watch or phone..it's to a specialist device and it's called a "cardio messenger". It does this once only every 24 hours during the night to record and capture the previous 24 hours activity. If for whatever reason the person isn't in range of the home device at the scheduled time for data transfer, the pacemaker continues doing its job and will sync the data once back in range.

So I think the pacemaker and apple watch statement is a little jumbled. What I am guessing is, the sheriff meant that her pacemaker transmitted data at 2am which is the once daily usual time for it to do so. This takes matter of seconds. I don't know what device Nancy has and if there is the capability for the technical department of the device can see when the device actually goes PIT of range of the cardio messenger or similar home device.

However what this tells me is, Nancy was alive and in her bed at 2am when the data was transmitted. It may be they were extremely fast to contact the pacemaker company and they are able to see the exact time the pacemaker was removed from range which isn't something that would be readily available. Or it could be even the sheriff is not fully aware of the technical side of this and actually based on the pacemaker alone, Nancy could have been taken anytime AFTER 2am since the pacemaker wouldn't be due to transmit data for another 24 hours.

If it's the first scenario where the tech company has provided the exact time Nancy wasn't in range of her home device they will also have data up until the point of the transmission related to her heart which could give some more details (suddenly spike in HR, etc)

Sorry for the lengthy post but I just wanted to mention incase others were also scratching their head at a pacemaker syncing to an apple watch.

My dad's pacemaker has to be charged, and he has often failed to charge it and we never got a notification or call.

 

[RainyDazeKS]

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[osu]

I’m unable to view the family’s plea since I am not on Instagram. Hopefully I’ll be able to catch it when the 10:00 News is on.

In the interim, reading that the brother did not speak and that the sister apparently seemed unpolished, IMO that means nothing.

This is a dreadful situation that the family is enduring. Yes, Savannah is accustomed to discussing news and to speak on television. But she has not had to discuss her mother being missing before.

IMO, however Nancy’s children want to speak is how they want to speak. Or to stay silent.

The brother is a highly trained fighter jet pilot. When Savannah took a flight with him, he was a very polished speaker because he was in his element. If he chooses not to speak now, that is fine with me.

Maybe he can’t bring himself to utter the words. Maybe he’s wary that he may in anger say something that would further endanger their mother.

Unless we hear from LE that a family member is a suspect, I believe that they are in an unimaginable crisis and I won’t judge anything they say or do.

Where are you, Nancy Guthrie??

Guthrie family statement video on NBC News.

'TODAY' co-anchor Savannah Guthrie and family make tearful plea for mother’s return

In an emotional Instagram video, the “TODAY” co-anchor directly addressed her mother’s possible captor. “We want to hear from you, and we are ready to listen,” she said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Bitcoin demand in Nancy Guthrie disappearance shows how crypto is becoming a more frequent feature of physical crimes | Fortune

TMZ and an Arizona news outlet reported receiving the ransom letter.

fortune.com

The demand for Bitcoin in Guthrie’s kidnapping comes amid an uptick of violent incidents in which criminals have targeted crypto owners, including notable cases occurring recently in Paris and New York. These attacks, known as “wrench attacks”, typically target people who have publicly revealed they own a sizable stash of crypto. There is no evidence Nancy Guthrie is a crypto owner and, if the random note is genuine, the kidnappers appear to be relying on the partial anonymity offered by Bitcoin.

 

[snoopy100]

OOH ok this makes a lot of sense!! Thank you.

no problem!

this detail has added even more to my confusion, but then, everything in this case does.