AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

This phone call to Annie is a bit odd. If this friend from church was concerned enough over NG not in attendance, why didn't he/she go over to the house themselves? It seems to me that this person who had Annie's phone number must also be quite a good friend.

Had they gone to NG's home, they would have seen the blood outside the front door and called the police themselves.

Maybe it's nothing, but it seems a bit odd in an already odd case.

There is a DM article stating that NG didn't actually attend church since the COVID era but she did watch services from home.

 

[gammagirl]

LE stated they’ve checked cameras around the neighborhood; assumption on my part they’re checking cell signals bouncing off nearby cell towers ~ similar to the Utah 4.

Someone in this chat mentioned that Nancy Guthrie was on her daughters show two months ago; and LE was interested in specific fans….

I’m wondering if LE has checked with the power company for a list of all new electrical services for the last 60 days and in a 5-mile radius.

there was a report that her home was listed for sale in 2024 and that since that listing had electrical updates...

 

[Elley Mae]

I can only think of one recent case where politics played a part in a murder.

The female judge who had ruled on a case many years ago was targeted at her home. The perp came to the front door and killed her son and injured her husband. He meant to kill her. I’m sorry I don’t recall her name but she did speak about it with various networks.

U.S. District Judge Esther Salas

 

[moonbeams]

I am very uncomfortable with rhetoric that subliminally blames SG for some perceived slights over an interview with DJT.

I understand that right now all we can do is speculate. But I refuse to entertain that SG has done anything that would inadvertently inspire some wack job to kidnap her mother as some kind of retaliatory act.

Let’s please remember that SG is a victim.

Are you also uncomfortable with people who keep alluding to or out right saying SIL/BIL is responsible? I'M uncomfortable with that..... As a family member he is also a victim......

 

[Luna20]

This phone call to Annie is a bit odd. If this friend from church was concerned enough over NG not in attendance, why didn't he/she go over to the house themselves? It seems to me that this person who had Annie's phone number must also be quite a good friend.

Had they gone to NG's home, they would have seen the blood outside the front door and called the police themselves.

Maybe it's nothing, but it seems a bit odd in an already odd case.

Do you have a link for the phone call to Annie? Ty

 

[LAborn]

Are you also uncomfortable with people who keep alluding to or out right saying SIL/BIL is responsible? I'M uncomfortable with that..... As a family member he is also a victim......

Political posts are against WS rules.

 

[MassGuy]

I get what you're saying but by not opening with who they were playing to, the "abductor", it felt like a long love letter to their mother and a poetry reading by AG.

To me the urgency of her missing and their willingness to negotiate was not center stage which was the purpose.
I gather the"abductor" already knows all about how NG is loved by all and her wonderful qualities from the media.
imo

I believe the willingness to negotiate coming later is intentional. You're setting the emotional hook, and the demand lands with much more weight as a result.

While the abductor likely knows she’s loved, hearing it directly from her family and not the media personalizes it. That’s very different psychologically than news headlines

Open with the demand and you risk them shutting down, and not being receptive to the message.

 

[mzjaak49]

This is what I'm thinking, and because the perpetrator(s) didn't get media attention right away regarding the note, they took it upon themselves to submit the note to TMZ and news organizations.

This is what I have been thinking too. I mean SG is a “celebrity”. Granted she is certainly not an A lister, but she is a news anchor for a national broadcast. The TODAY show is on TVs across America everyday. TMZ is exactly who I would send a ransom note to in this case if I wanted it public and the attention it came with. That’s the scary part to me, if the ransom note is legit, this person wants attention. Riddler type stuff.

 

[CandyKiss]

there was a report that her home was listed for sale in 2024 and that since that listing had electrical updates...

I'm looking at how prepared the kidnapper(s) were; IF after NG was on her daughters show two months were plans set in place? They may not be from the area but will need a rental home with an attached garage and for less visibility close by; which is why I asked about new electrical services in the last 60 days within a 5 mile radius.

 

[SRWCF]

Are you also uncomfortable with people who keep alluding to or out right saying SIL/BIL is responsible? I'M uncomfortable with that..... As a family member he is also a victim......

I think we can put to rest that BIL is a suspect, especially after the video the 3 siblings released yesterday addressing the ransom and saying, "We are ready to talk."

 

[academyrd]

Are you also uncomfortable with people who keep alluding to or out right saying SIL/BIL is responsible? I'M uncomfortable with that..... As a family member he is also a victim......

Well Ashley Banfield said this and continues to double down. She is not backing down. She’s a real journalist and real source. Where there’s smoke… you know the rest

 

[mpnola]

There has been talk of her camera not keeping more than x amount of hours, if a plan wasn't purchased. That's a little misleading because it is not straight time. It is event time. That means it would have to be triggered and record more than (3,8,however many) hours. That is actually a lot of footage. It would likely go back months. I have Eufy and I don't pay a plan. I can go back several months and still see the neighbors truck pull out the driveway Point being, if the cameras were working/ charged, they can easily get the footage.

 

[Zeta74]

How credible is the Daily Mail who reported that NG didn’t go to church in person post-Covid? Because that would throw everything the daughter said about the call into question IMHO. But I can’t see why the daughter would lie about that call. But if NG hasn’t gone to church in years in person, I do not believe that call came to the daughter that quickly.

If I knew an older person who regularly watched church on Zoom and they weren’t there one day, my immediate assumption would be internet or computer issues, not
something urgent enough to call family that morning.

 

[clearskies1]

The Guthrie sibling video will smoke out if there is legitimacy to the media ransom notes. "Kidnappers" will need to reach out again and actually show proof of life. If there is nothing then LE can focus on other things. JMO.

 

[LAborn]

Well Ashley Banfield said this and continues to double down. She is not backing down. She’s a real journalist and real source. Where there’s smoke… you know the rest

Banfield also made a huge point to say how credible her source was. We shall see I guess. Did you find it odd that FBI sent the ICAC squad to BIL house yesterday? ICAC - Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force Program and Agents Seize Multiple Items From Home of Savannah Guthrie's Sister Annie and Law Enforcement Agents at Annie Guthrie's House Amid Search For Nancy

 

[MesquiteO21]

I am just hoping in so I don't know if this was posted about previously but is it unusual that border patrol is involved in this investigation?

I believe it was stated they were involved because they have useful resources (the dogs maybe?) and not because they necessarily think she was taken to Mexico.
(working on getting sources for this, hold please)

moo

 

[moonbeams]

I'm wondering if this friend didn't want to go to NG's house themselves because they didn't want to offend NG. You know, since she's elderly, it would definitely be concerning if NG broke routine. But a lot of times the elderly don't appreciate being "checked on" when breaking routine when, say, if a person 20 years younger did a similar action it would not raise alarm bells. Does that make sense? Maybe that's why the friend chose to phone the daughter, instead. I've had my mom's friends call me for that same reason, out of concern, because they felt awkward talking directly to my mom. My mom is 77. Circumstances are a tad different because Mom has cognitive decline, but I think the premise is the same (not wanting to offend NG).

And possibly they tried calling NG first and got no answer? so then called AG?

 

[mpnola]

The 911 call said "didn't show up for" church services. I would be surprised if she didn't actually go in person to church.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I believe the willingness to negotiate coming later is intentional. You're setting the emotional hook, and the demand lands with much more weight as a result.

While the abductor likely knows she’s loved, hearing it directly from her family and not the media personalizes it. That’s very different psychologically than news headlines

Open with the demand and you risk them shutting down, and not being receptive to the message.

You're obviously schooled on this topic so I'll now acquiesce except for there was no need to open with any kind of demand, just an acknowledgement.
Thanks for all your input.
imo

 

[Cryptic]

The point isn't about what they have, but about what the criminal thinks they can receive without exposing their identity. As DrGonzo said, Bitcoin is not nearly as untraceable as some criminals seem to think it is, but that's still why it's popular with them.

My suspicion is that the most important thing about currency transactions for criminals is not whether it can be traced, but where it is traced to.

Tracing a transaction probably does little good if the trace ends up in a country that is uncooperative, slow to cooperate, or has poor records keeping requirements. For example:

Hurray, the Bitcoin pig butchering transactions has been traced to Nigeria. Too bad that not only are Nigerian police slow to act in any case, but non violent financial crimes outside of Nigeria have a very low priority and.... Nigerian banks etc. often don't require firmly established identities to start with.

So... by the time the police get to act on the trace, the money is long gone and the identity of the criminals is not established.

The ransomware payment traced back to Omsk, Russia? Well..... don't get your hopes up.