AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[thefragile7393]

Hundreds of murders go unsolved and it’s not for a lack of effort on LE. They only have so much to go on.

Well when someone is in over their head, they hand it off. And that's what is going on thankfully.

 

[tlcya]

They asked if it was her daughter or SIL that dropped NG back at home, and declined to specify. "family, we'll just go with that"

ETA - IMO he wouldn't specify because there was so much speculation about the SIL he didn't want that to turn into a focus.

agree 100%

 

[Diddian]

9:48. Family member helps Nancy into garage, gets her settled in house. 950 closes door to leave.

Seems reasonable

I did not hear him say that the family member "gets her settled in house."

 

[Zeta74]

With regard to what kind of kidnapper moves the deadlines, I would guess someone who has no connection to this case but who is hoping to make some money out of the family’s fear. Going to keep moving the fake target til they get something.

 

[ab01]

This may be a dumb question, but what does it mean by doorbell cam goes offline? Is that the point it was disconnected from wall? If so, how did it detect motion at 2:12?

Likely disconnected from the wall if hard wired and or disconnected from wifi if it was battery or a combination of the two. The sheriff explained that the detected motion was from a different camera than the one that was disconnected.

 

[amelia65452]

But still, if camera is off line at 1:47, what detected movement at 2:12??

Could have been another camera.

 

[WallyRenfield]

Did they specify that the camera which detected a "person" was a camera connected to home security or did they just leave it at "camera?" A thought occurred to me that IPhones have facial recognition features. When awoken, they scan for a human's face so that the phone knows when it's actively being used(as opposed to being passively held at a person's side.) Is it possible that someone picked up the phone, woke it up and caused the facial recognition software to activate? This would explain why they know a person was detected, but don't have an image to work with.

 

[moonbeams]

I'm not sure she drives now, based on the fact that she took an Uber to her daughter’s house, which is only 10 minutes away.

IMO she wouldn't want to drive home after dark, so uber and the plan was for A or T to drive her back home.

 

[sprightly]

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The initial reporting made it sound like it was an hour, but the timeline verified today indicates that it was only about 5 minutes, which makes sense to me. My dad is 88 and lives alone, so a lot of this hits pretty close, but if I saw blood outside of his house, I'd panic but still go inside to check on him, and if I didn't immediately find him inside his home, injured, I'd call 911.

 

[MassGuy]

Releasing the crime scene so quickly was a huge mistake. The sheriff even said as much and when asked about contamination said "that will be for the courts to decide." That could be big down the line.

It's only big if they found something and there was contamination, and I reference this yesterday: I've followed cases with much bigger mistakes and it had zero effect. Like Families unknowingly living in bloody crime scenes, and a house being released with forensic evidence and the family having to be removed to reprocessing.

That search was seemingly contained to the outside and garage, and I don't think family had been in that house or anything since then (media would have seen that for sure).

 

[Mauritius]

So the family called 911 within 5 minutes instead of an hour like previously thought. It is certainly reassuring that they saw quickly that something was wrong and called law enforcement. Yes, 5 minutes is still a long time, but between the shock/denial and scrambling around looking for her, that is reasonable, IMO.

I wonder if family found a ransom note at that time and panic'd between themselves on whether to call authorities. I suppose everything will come out in due time.

JMO.

And if they all use garage as entry - it might have been a few minutes before they checked front porch. In other words, the blood might have been found AFTER going in via garage (or via open back door for that matter) quick walk through house,’checking swimming pool maybe, then going around to front door - and calling 911 immediately once they saw blood and saw the removed camera.

(I’d have assumed front porch would be first arrival point for family, but now hearing garage entry, I realize it may well not have been.)

 

[pixiepixel]

What is the deal with this whole church issue? She was supposed to go to church and didn't show? And someone called Annie and told her "hey your mom didn't show up to church"?

But then it was revealed she only goes to online church which is anonymous? Who lied about what? That's probably your suspect/kidnapper/killer

Sorry, this thread is moving so fast I haven't been able to keep up with everything. Where and when was it confirmed that she only goes to online church?

 

[LAhiker]

I'm just thinking about this timeline:

9:48 pm - Family drops Nancy off at home & garage door opens
9:50 pm - Garage door closes

It would be helpful to know if she routinely entered/exited her house through the garage vs. the front door when she was being picked up/dropped off.

It would be helpful to know if she kept a garage door opener with her in her purse.

Jennifer Dulos was attacked in her garage after coming home from dropping her kids after school.
Fotis Dulos snuck into the garage while the door was still open , unbeknownst to her.

Could the garage door have a setting in which it closes automatically after a certain amount of time unless a sensor detects movement across the entryway?

I mean, clearly you'd also want a setting in which it could stay open. (Unless it's a system like the gate to my apartment complex's parking area, in which you have to drape something over the sensor to get it to stay open.)

JMO

 

[Megnut]

You know, I found it oddly satisfying to hear the Sheriff carefully go through each one of Ashleigh Banfield's claims about the supposed prime suspect and the specific state of the crime scene, and shoot each one down in flames.

If she's wrong, that's one thing. If she's right, it could imperil the investigation hugely. TMZ going public with the ransom letter, same thing.

Love-hate

LE needs the public for tips, but the public is also a liability--

JMO

 

[DizzyB]

Rule #1 of public speaking-never say “my guess is as good as yours”.

 

[browneyes]

Well when someone is in over their head, they hand it off. And that's what is going on thankfully.

The sheriff was offered help from the FBI and other agencies. He didn’t hand it off. This happens in almost every difficult crime.

 

[amelia65452]

And if they all use garage as entry - it might have been a few minutes before they checked front porch. In other words, the blood might have been found AFTER going in via garage (or via open back door for that matter) quick walk through house,’checking swimming pool maybe, then going around to front door - and calling 911 immediately once they saw blood and removed camera.

(I’d have assumed front porch would be first arrival point for family, but now hearing garage entry, I realize it may well not have been.)

I have had moments in this case where I have thought maybe the blood was possibly already there before she went missing, and could be unrelated in this case.

 

[Cardgame]

The announcement at the last presser that there would be another presser today seems very significant now that we know there was a credible ransom note that had 5pm Thursday as a deadline.

 

[tlcya]

You know, I found it oddly satisfying to hear the Sheriff carefully go through each one of Ashleigh Banfield's claims about the supposed prime suspect and the specific state of the crime scene, and shoot them all down in flames.

yeah, I feel her oh so trusted inside the investigation source was full of it and was shocked she basically fingered the SIL as LE's suspect number one. I was disappointed by that decision of hers.

 

[UsernameRequired]

This may be a dumb question, but what does it mean by doorbell cam goes offline? Is that the point it was disconnected from wall? If so, how did it detect motion at 2:12?

They stated there are multiple cameras.