AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Justice101]

Releasing the crime scene so quickly was a huge mistake. The sheriff even said as much and when asked about contamination said "that will be for the courts to decide." That could be big down the line.

And the defense will use Brian Entin's video walking onto the porch as evidence the crime scene was contaminated.

 

[KellySleuth]

John Miller CNN:

It's only big if they found something and there was contamination, and I reference this yesterday: I've followed cases with much bigger mistakes and it had zero effect. Like Families unknowingly living in bloody crime scenes, and a house being released with forensic evidence and the family having to be removed to reprocessing.

That search was seemingly contained to the outside and garage, and I don't think family had been in that house or anything since then (media would have seen that for sure).

Love John Miller. I still think it was a huge mistake. You had reporters walking up onto the porch where the blood was. A defense attorney will absolutely pounce on that.

 

[browneyes]

sorry guys, there's too much to look through at this point - there was an arrest?

For a fake ransom note.

 

[pixiepixel]

My opinion: It sounds like there are 2+ cameras we are dealing with here: the Ring doorbell camera, which was disconnected around 1:45 am, and at least one other camera inside the house that detected movement around 2:15 am. None of the footage from either of the cameras is available for viewing because it was set to delete every 3 hours.

To me, that indicates that the perp knew there was a Ring doorbell and took action to remove it, but was NOT aware of the inside camera(s) and just got lucky that the footage deleted itself so quickly.

 

[Sundog]

Would the camera provider have the video even if she doesn't have a subscription?

No, according to the Sheriff.

 

[HobnobsNBroomsticks]

sorry guys, there's too much to look through at this point - there was an arrest?

Someone was arrested for a fake ransom note

 

[Zeta74]

If you knew you weren’t paying for a Nest service, would you know it was overwriting?

I’m not sure who would actually know that.

 

[Megnut]

What i really don't understand is while the family has the resources why they didn't bother with the subscription. Especially because it's a elderly lady living alone and who is fairly fragile.

Well, up until this week, the odds of her being kidnapped were about zero.

Perhaps she felt abundantly safe in her home and used her cameras as I do -- to check in real time who is ringing the doorbell.

History is often the biggest predictor -- if she never had occasion to feel fearful, she may have felt no need to have greater security.

JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

The initial reporting made it sound like it was an hour, but the timeline verified today indicates that it was only about 5 minutes, which makes sense to me. My dad is 88 and lives alone, so a lot of this hits pretty close, but if I saw blood outside of his house, I'd panic but still go inside to check on him, and if I didn't immediately find him inside his home, injured, I'd call 911.

Thanks, I haven't gotten to the updated timeline yet.
It does hit close to home when you have an elderly parent(s) or had the experiences.
May your dad stay safe and content and good for him remaining independent at 88.

 

[tlcya]

What i really don't understand is while the family has the resources why they didn't bother with the subscription. Especially because it's a elderly lady living alone and who is fairly fragile.

a) NG is not some senior who lacks the capacity to make her own decisions
b) NG lives in a million dollar home in a nice area so seems to have the resources to subscribe if she wanted to
c) I may have missed it as I am at work right now, but did the authorities confirm there was no subscription? TIA

 

[Curiousobserver]

You can also remotely open the garage from a phone. Maybe she had opened it from phone as approaching the house so it would be ready and lights on when she got there, especially if using an Uber. That would explain a two minute gap, maybe opening it one minute before she got there, walking in, and then closing it right after.

She may have something like this (which is what I use):

https://www.myq.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoq5KuDXDuPmIYRJHMQHzNSiGKFdV8OZ7WFf8LosYJjZVMThcV5j

 

[amelia65452]

sorry guys, there's too much to look through at this point - there was an arrest?

Yes, for someone who is faking a ransom

 

[Magic8Ball]

Releasing the crime scene so quickly was a huge mistake. The sheriff even said as much and when asked about contamination said "that will be for the courts to decide." That could be big down the line.

The DA's office is probably out at Home Depot even as we speak buying rolls of duct tape.

JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

Love John Miller. I still think it was a huge mistake. You had reporters walking up onto the porch where the blood was. A defense attorney will absolutely pounce on that.

Sure, but that blood has already been processed. Now it would be different if they went back and reprocessed it, but that's not what happened.

I criticized this myself yesterday, and I stand by that. But I don't believe it is going to change anything, based on past cases with incredibly egregious mistakes much worse than this.

 

[KellySleuth]

I have the resources, am a widow, and I didn’t pay for the subscription either. NG’s family bears zero responsibility for how she set things up.

We also don't pay for a subscription. This case is going to be a big boon for Nest's and Ring's subscription business I would imagine.

 

[outback]

What i really don't understand is while the family has the resources why they didn't bother with the subscription. Especially because it's a elderly lady living alone and who is fairly fragile.

Maybe Nancy was still paying her own bills and made that decision herself.

She could have believed the appearance of them might scare someone off, too.

Jmo

 

[Maat99]

Yes, most "experts" I have heard discuss this case said it's extremely rare in the United States, but common in countries like Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, and Brazil, etc. I agree with your thought it was somebody known to Nancy OR it was a non-citizen from one of those countries, IMO. Praying for Nancy Guthrie.

So whenever there is gun related violence outside of the US, we should assume it is some undocumented American committing the crime. Good to know.

 

[honestground]

In regards to the note having two timeline, could one be for injuring her or punishing her and the second be for killing her or something along those lines? Just trying to guess why there could be multiple deadlines. MOO and sorry if someone said this already and it was missed.

 

[browneyes]

We also don't pay for a subscription. This case is going to be a big boon for Nest's and Ring's subscription business I would imagine.

Probably so, but I’m still not buying one.

 

[soap mama]

If you ever have the chance, sit and watch a clock circle around 5 times, or slowly count to 300. It's a lot longer than we think sometimes.

JMO.

Heck, i remember the OJ trial, a witness stated how long 30 seconds or a minute is when you're standing in front of the microwave!