AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it's a thought I can't shake...

If SIL and/or AG had anything to do with a premeditated disappearance ... and NG is with them all those hours playing games and eating dinner ... wouldn't it make sense for somebody to drug her before returning her home?
it would make sense
 
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Releasing the crime scene so quickly was a huge mistake. The sheriff even said as much and when asked about contamination said "that will be for the courts to decide." That could be big down the line.

Big for both any trial and any civil case against LE.


I have always found WSers to be very helpful in filling in those who are unable to read thousands of posts. I am sorry to witness such an unkind change to the group. But maybe that’s just you.

Funny enough, one of my very first posts was because I skipped ahead and didn't read and asked a stupid question that had been answered not only on the first page but on 100 other pages since. I was chastised horribly for it. Lesson learned ;/

Now when I see posts like this, I have to force myself to scroll by because I understand the frustration.
 
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Just a thought…but since the Bitcoin is legit, and there’s no way to get in touch with the kidnapper, and assuming this ransom note is legit: why not deposit just a portion of the ransom money and tell the perp that they will get the rest when Nancy is released? I believe it would be worth the risk of losing that money in order to get NG back. 💸
 
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Crazy thought. Let's assume ransom is real. What if NG found a way to defend herself and is possibly somehow stuck somewhere? It would explain the lack in communication since the letter was sent. Or possibly, abductor suicide and she can't escape. Dark thoughts but my idea.
 
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The Guthrie family’s heart wrenching video plea last night and the recent video by the brother Camron are absolutely devastating to watch.

Sadly, I believe they are chasing a ghost….

IMO
 
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Just a thought…but since the Bitcoin is legit, and there’s no way to get in touch with the kidnapper, and assuming this ransom note is legit: why not deposit just a portion of the ransom money and tell the perp that they will get the rest when Nancy is released? I believe it would be worth the risk of losing that money in order to get NG back. 💸
I would think it would be hard to put any money to it without proof of life?
 
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Just a thought…but since the Bitcoin is legit, and there’s no way to get in touch with the kidnapper, and assuming this ransom note is legit: why not deposit just a portion of the ransom money and tell the perp that they will get the rest when Nancy is released? I believe it would be worth the risk of losing that money in order to get NG back. 💸

Don't exactly have a ton of leverage to be playing those kinds of games with a potential kidnapper, IMO.
 
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Nope, and you can't get it back.

Perhaps SG has an insurance clause for something like this and would get all or some of the funds back. Really wealthy people account for lots of things we'd never imagine having to think of.
 
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Nope, and you can't get it back.
Could this just be a scammer not even connected to any of this who decided to try to make some money? If so they are truly sick because they are hindering investigation here. Giving the family maybe false hope, disgusting.
 
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I wonder why there is little info about dinner and the games. Like was it a church event or at a restaurant or other venue or at Tucson daughter house. My guess is victim took Uber to event and maybe Tuscon daughter met up with victim later on? They only lived 4 miles away. I think Uber driver will have some good info as to what went on Sat night, as perhaps victim chatted about her night plans
by all accounts and I have been watching this since day 1 the evening was at Annie's home. I have heard nothing about church or restaurant.
 
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This neighbor is just reporting this now??
To be fair she didn’t elaborate so it could be something she just saw yesterday or today
moo
 
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Gosh. After watching parts of the press conference again and then seeing the son issue his own pleas to a potential abductor, I just can't shake the idea that a kidnapping and legitimate ransom demand is what may have just happened here. In my view, if the family didn't have strong suspicion (and as likely, compelling evidence) that this is the case then there is little chance they would be putting what seems to be a large part of their effort, resources, and - less important but still important - their reputation, towards it.

JMO.
I don’t think it’s just about a strong suspicion- I have to imagine that in scenarios like this, a kidnapping pretty much leaves the only possibility the victim is still alive. Sadly.
 
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I agree with you @MassGuy -

I actually think sexual assault is the likely cause here - I think the sexual assault aspect would explain why there was significant gap between the doorbell camera and the other camera / her pacemaker disconnecting from Bluetooth.

Ugh it makes me sick to type but I think this is likely scenario
Would the 40 min gap not be easily explained by the perp rummaging through Nancy’s things/robbing her? That’s what I assume they were doing. I’ll be shocked if this was a sexually motivated crime.
 
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Possible, but the official timeline suggests that the doorbell camera was disabled at the beginning of the incident, not the end.
The "incident"'could have happened before the doorbell camera was disabled. They could have entered through a different door etc
 

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