AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[marloweclover]

Just read a crazy take from a former FBI agent:

he said at one point in sibling video savannah's sister says "Mama, we need you to come home" so she's talking to directly to Nancy as if she has control of coming home herself, and he said that was interesting to him that it seemed to leave the door open a little bit for this not to be a kidnapping.

This is obviously very confusing to me, is it possible she left on own accord? Maybe a psychotic break? or had someone pick her up? Angry at family. Seems far fetched.

I said the same thing when the family video came out. There was a moment in the second section where imo it sounded like "if you are listening and you can come home, please come home."

At the time, I thought they were just covering all the bases. It has occurred to me though that maybe this was voluntary initially, that she had agreed to go with someone, but changed her mind, hence her meds weren't packed up and with her to be taken, and the cameras weren't turned off in advance. The unknown person didn't agree to the change and took her anyway, hence the blood. Imo this is very, very low on the possibilities list, but it seems like nothing has been eliminated yet.

 

[Kapua]

I think I caught some of it. Harvey Levin said that the note had perfect grammar. That it was written and set up perfectly. No mistakes. He doesn’t think that it’s a stupid person. I hate to think what the two deadlines entail.

Anyone wanna take a guess as to how much money the person is asking for? I wonder if it’s an outrageous amount, like $100 million.

They may be educated, but IMHO, it's pretty stupid to kidnap an older person with serious health problems. If the victim dies, the suspects would most likely be looking at a homicide or manslaughter charge (IANAL, MOO.)

 

[MassGuy]

This post kind of contradicts a post of mine a couple back but it has also stuck out to me that right since the get go the Sheriff has said multiple times that he believes NG is alive. He has framed it as a kidnapping right from the beginning. There’s got to be something they have that has made him think that from the word go. Maybe there was a note at the scene? From the family’s videos they have said the kidnapper has not contacted them directly at all so that makes me think a note was never sent to them

I think that's just his way of communicating. The "we believe so and so is alive," is pretty standard. I've actually seen it in cases where you can tell without a doubt law enforcement is looking for a body.

A much better way of handling this would have been to say "we believe a crime occurred in that home," and leave it at that, as opposed to saying she was "abducted in her sleep."

There is no way they could know she actually left that house alive, but that's the picture he's painted. I believe it's entirely possible that this resulted in some opportunist taking advantage of the situation with the ransom notes.

I think they saw blood at the scene, perhaps signs of forced entry, and cameras being messed with. You'd bring in homicide detectives instantly if those things were true.

If there was a note left, then it's weird to communicate again through the media. And if you do communicate with the media, you reference the original note so law enforcement knows you're legit. That doesn't appear to have happened.

 

[LordNikkon]

After seeing this video of the TMZ founder speaking on the situation now I see the problem. Everyone keeps calling it a note when its not a physical note but an email. And its the only way of contact. Now this makes me question why video or pictures weren't sent as proof of life. Yes AI plays a role but its not good enough yet to have AI create a false video or sound bite of the victims voice to answer a question that only she would know.

 

[MorningDove]

I don't think NG is missing because of a real hostage situation. Not real to me. No silly stuff. Something really bad happened and my heart goes out to the Guthrie family! Here we sit dissecting and they are absolutely going through the worst times of their lives!

 

[SaraSmile]

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Are we too harsh on AG and TC? We have no proof that they are involved.

After all, we might be looking at a very different situation.

Two children, both successful, have demanding lives and careers far away.

The third one lives next to the mom (who owned her house since when? Long, long ago). They are not wealthy. But the daily
needs of the mother are met by them.

I guess everyone knows that Nancy's nest camera had no subscription.

The alarming reason footage of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance can’t be recovered despite security cameras​

The 84-year-old was reported missing on Sunday afternoon after she didn’t attend church.

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The subscription is cheap. So it tells me that Nancy was living frugally as old people do.

So what if AG and TC were good people who didn't bother anyone with their mom's needs? And nothing more than that?

And maybe a mother who is retired and a daughter who is a poet and her hubby who is an elementary school teacher are in a bad spot just because they took it upon themselves to meet all mom's daily needs?

I am not prepared to suspect them unless I have better proof.

Nancy might have forgotten to pay the Nest cam subscription. Sometimes, It’s hard to think of all the accounts as an older person. Just a thought.

 

[MassGuy]

After seeing this video of the TMZ founder speaking on the situation now I see the problem. Everyone keeps calling it a note when its not a physical note but an email. And its the only way of contact. Now this makes me question why video or pictures weren't sent as proof of life. Yes AI plays a role but its not good enough yet to have AI create a false video or sound bite of the victims voice to answer a question that only she would know.

I had the same thought, so I looked into it. Although it is possible to send an email that is very difficult to trace, by attaching a photo or video, you are sharing data that may very well lead to your capture. Not the photo itself, but the technical data inside of it - super complicated stuff that I could never understand.

 

[aafromaa]

My guess would be that Apple Watch was on her night stand next to the bed. Crazy question but where does every one keep their watch?

The main point of a pacemaker synced to an Apple Watch or iPhone is so that it sends monitoring reports to the cardiologist - usually overnight - not usually every night - different cardiologists may want them sent more frequently with some patients than others - but the whole idea of syncing them to a Bluetooth device was to replace the need for patients to call in and do the remote monitoring via phone with those clunky old monitors they used before (like my mother had - they were hard to use too). Therefore it is logical to think that the watch would normally be somewhere near the bed for overnight charging in case that was a night it was supposed to send data to the medical team - otherwise what would be the point? But if the location of NG’s watch is noted in a ransom letter and that indicated the possibility of it being legit to LE then my guess is the watch was not near the bed - that is that it was intentionally left elsewhere. Because if it was charging near the bed as usual it is too easy to just guess that’s where it would be on any normal night.

 

[Chainspell]

Hadn't seen this posted (sorry if I missed it), but here's a link to Harvey Levin from TMZ talking to CNN about the ransom note TMZ received. Saw chatter about it but not a video link. It doesn't appear to be the full interview, but at least a significant portion.

Notes about the alleged ransom letter and its contents: the deadline on Monday being 'far more consequential', that it was very detailed in regards to the placement of the apple watch/damaged floodlight, the ransom note reiterating there will be no other form of contact, Nancy is aware of the letter and the demands and 'okay but scared', Harvey has the impression the person is local to Tucson.

Really makes me wonder about where the Apple Watch was claimed to be. It would be safe to say it was on a bedside table, so maybe they claimed it ended up in an unusual spot?

 

[Ninety Nine]

Just read a crazy take from a former FBI agent:

he said at one point in sibling video savannah's sister says "Mama, we need you to come home" so she's talking to directly to Nancy as if she has control of coming home herself, and he said that was interesting to him that it seemed to leave the door open a little bit for this not to be a kidnapping.

This is obviously very confusing to me, is it possible she left on own accord? Maybe a psychotic break? or had someone pick her up? Angry at family. Seems far fetched.

Struck me as odd too but brushed it off for two reasons.

If their mother is alive, the kidnappers would surely show her this video. This may be the last time Nancy hears anything from her children and they wanted to speak directly to her and show her how much they love her.

This is a cry for help, they are asking their mother directly to communicate to these kidnappers "we will do whatever you want us to do to get our mother home." They know how smart their mother is.

Mom if you can, help us here.

99

 

[ttjo]

Doubled down, tripled down and now quadrupling down

 

[Kapua]

I had the same thought, so I looked into it. Although it is possible to send an email that is very difficult to trace, by attaching a photo or video, you are sharing data that may very well lead to your capture. Not the photo itself, but the technical data inside of it - super complicated stuff that I could never understand.

Digital photos contain EXIF metadata. There are tools which can remove this metadata.

 

[Deepinthought52]

I wonder if tempers flared. She was hit and killed and they panicked and decided to make it look like a kidnapping. This may turn out to be a really stupid plot on behalf of the person. You would think that they would have at least attempted to make it look like a robbery.

Why wasn’t the son-in-law part of the family’s video message? That, to me, looks really strange. It sticks out. It would have helped in making him look less guilty.

None of the spouses were. Just the 3 adult children.maybe to simplify it?

 

[snoopy100]

This post kind of contradicts a post of mine a couple back but it has also stuck out to me that right since the get go the Sheriff has said multiple times that he believes NG is alive. He has framed it as a kidnapping right from the beginning. There’s got to be something they have that has made him think that from the word go. Maybe there was a note at the scene? From the family’s videos they have said the kidnapper has not contacted them directly at all so that makes me think a note was never sent to them

i brought this up several pages back and no one replied but... i want to know if the pacemaker would send an alert to her phone if something irregular was happening to her heart (like if it stopped). if they could access the app and see it was operating normally until it disconnected around 2am, would this not pretty definitively tell them that she left the house alive?

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

Snipped by me for focus:

Anyone wanna take a guess as to how much money the person is asking for? I wonder if it’s an outrageous amount, like $100 million.

i don’t know, but, if it is $100,000,000, Savannah’s net worth is $40,000,000 so I would imagine they would have a difficult time coming up with that high an amount.

Savannah Guthrie's Headline-Grabbing Net Worth in 2026 and What She Makes on 'Today'

Plus, how does her salary compare to other 'Today' show anchors?

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[Absoluterubbish]

i brought this up several pages back and no one replied but... i want to know if the pacemaker would send an alert to her phone if something irregular was happening to her heart (like if it stopped). if they could access the app and see it was operating normally until it disconnected around 2am, would this not pretty definitively tell them that she left the house alive?

Yes I agree that the data on her watch regarding her heart rate prior to it disconnecting would be pretty definitive as to her condition when it disconnected

 

[Deepinthought52]

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Are we too harsh on AG and TC? We have no proof that they are involved.

After all, we might be looking at a very different situation.

Two children, both successful, have demanding lives and careers far away.

The third one lives next to the mom (who owned her house since when? Long, long ago). They are not wealthy. But the daily
needs of the mother are met by them.

I guess everyone knows that Nancy's nest camera had no subscription.

The alarming reason footage of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance can’t be recovered despite security cameras​

The 84-year-old was reported missing on Sunday afternoon after she didn’t attend church.

pagesix.com

The subscription is cheap. So it tells me that Nancy was living frugally as old people do.

So what if AG and TC were good people who didn't bother anyone with their mom's needs? And nothing more than that?

And maybe a mother who is retired and a daughter who is a poet and her hubby who is an elementary school teacher are in a bad spot just because they took it upon themselves to meet all mom's daily needs?

I am not prepared to suspect them unless I have better proof.

I think it is just natural to explore that as an option. There are clues that point to the possibility of it being somebody that. NG G. or the family knows, so I think it’s just natural to entertain that thought, especially if a friend of theirs has criminal hx involving money, not specifically target them alone. Jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Ashleigh completely stands by her previous reporting, and has spoken to this source "three days in a row." He said today "sometimes when you're taking pot shots you are right on the target."

"Nest cams were smashed."

Talks about how sheriff didn't say no when pressed by a reporter on this.

Sheriff talked about a camera being missing (I must have missed this). So maybe "smashed" is just a semantic difference.

To me, either way it means the same thing. These cameras were physically manipulated by the perpetrator. It makes no difference if they were destroyed or taken.

Ashleigh then talks about her previous reporting that AC's car was seized. Talks about sherif saying it's "standard," which is further confirmation.

Talks about how sheriff has told various stories about who dropped Nancy off. Today he said "just family, we're going to go with family." He previously told the New York Times that it was TC.

Forced entry thing which Ashleigh reported. Today when asked the sheriff didn't dispute it, only attacking where it came from.

Talks about how sheriff originally said it was a kidnapping, but is now saying "maybe it is a kidnapping." "Not sure why they're hedging on that."

 

[SlimPickens]

Hadn't seen this posted (sorry if I missed it), but here's a link to Harvey Levin from TMZ talking to CNN about the ransom note TMZ received. Saw chatter about it but not a video link. It doesn't appear to be the full interview, but at least a significant portion.

Notes about the alleged ransom letter and its contents: the deadline on Monday being 'far more consequential', that it was very detailed in regards to the placement of the apple watch/damaged floodlight, the ransom note reiterating there will be no other form of contact, Nancy is aware of the letter and the demands and 'okay but scared', Harvey has the impression the person is local to Tucson.

Really makes me wonder about where the Apple Watch was claimed to be. It would be safe to say it was on a bedside table, so maybe they claimed it ended up in an unusual spot?

Compelling, IMO.

 

[Deepinthought52]

Ashleigh completely stands by her previous reporting, and has spoken to this source "three days in a row." He said today "sometimes when you're taking pot shots you are right on the target."

"Nest cams were smashed."

Talks about how sheriff didn't say no when pressed by a reporter on this.

Sheriff talked about a camera being missing (I must have missed this). So maybe "smashed" is just a semantic difference.

To me, either way it means the same thing. These cameras were physically manipulated by the perpetrator. It makes no difference if they were destroyed or taken.

Ashleigh then talks about her previous reporting that AC's car was seized. Talks about sherif saying it's "standard," which is further confirmation.

Talks about how sheriff has told various stories about who dropped Nancy off. Today he said "just family, we're going to go with family." He previously told the New York Times that it was TC.

Forced entry thing which Ashleigh reported. Today when asked the sheriff didn't dispute it, only attacking where it came from.

Talks about how sheriff originally said it was a kidnapping, but is now saying "maybe it is a kidnapping." "Not sure why they're hedging on that."

Even if AB is correct, Imo she needs to give opinions only, not interfere with the investigation by trying to be first to report this or that… the sheriff was probably frustrated and rightfully so IMO