AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[MinnesotaMary]

depends. I've had alcoholics as patients who should be on all sorts of medications for cardiac-and yet are not. And yet still make it in to where I work

Agree! I personally know of an 'older' person who died a couple weeks ago ---- he'd been a Ticking Time Bomb for years and it's a head-scratcher as to how and why he lived so long....

 

[slowpoke]

Even if Ms. G attended church remotely, I bet she would have had the habit of stating who she was to all the other remote-attendees, and she probably had pals and they'd Private Message one another during the time they were online for the church service.

I think that very plausible.
When I went to the church website and tapped 10:45 AM, it took me to a Vimeo page that says
“Join the audience to participate in chat, polls,and quizzes”.
So, I could see where NG would routinely sign in and greet her online fellow churchgoers there just as one would when going to church in-person.
(Screenshot of the church’s Vimeo page.)

Of course, I don’t know if she goes to the 10:45 service, I just clicked it to see, as an example.

jmo

 

[Jade]

My parents are almost 90 and I guarantee you they'd be having issues with a lot of these comments. Heck they both still drive, although my dad really really should not drive at night....but he does. ugh

Well, there are two of them to look out for each other.

My 95 year old perfectly fine father who lived by himself fell in the kitchen one evening hurt his hip couldn’t get up, his phone in another room and spent the night and most of the next day on the cold tile floor until the neighbor stopped by he almost died from it.

Then we didn’t care what he said hired help during most of the day and one, albeit studying the whole time, in the night. But he really didn't object much turns out he enjoyed some company, the day one cooked too, and the attention while still getting a few hours to himself.

Daddy drove too. A sports car no less.


all imo

 

[jillybean51]

I like your theory.

Fargo.I agree!100% cover-up of crime.I believe it possible that the perpetrator had an accomplice, who later helped with the kidnapping scheme.I believe she was killed, the body buried, and they thought “ why not” try to get some extra money out of this.
Also the timeline .. just because doorbell was dismantled at 1:47, doesn’t mean the crime was started at that point.It’s possible that at 2:12 they banged on the door.The person picked up on camera at that point was Nancy , going to answer the door.She was then assaulted and tried to run back into the house.After 16 minutes(2:28), she was removed from the house and the pacemaker disconnected .Just another scenario..

 

[HoveringWombats]

ChatGPT absolutely saves history. But they need a starting point for a search. If LE has a suspect in mind, and can get a subpoena, it's likely relatively easy for OpenAI to pull up their chat history and turn it over (whether they put up a fight before doing that or not is a separate question). But with the volume of data that ChatGPT handles, it's really not practical to cast a wide net and try to find a suspect amongst billions of daily messages. Even if they tried to find chats that included the victim's name (which I wouldn't expect them to necessarily include), that is probably not a tractable search in a reasonable timeframe. But if you need to be even broader than that, which I think they'd have to be to actually find anything, it's just not viable.

In other words, ChatGPT history can be useful for providing further evidence that a suspect is the perpetrator, but it's not useful for finding a suspect amongst the sea of users. (Yes, yes, I could imagine scenarios where you try to narrow it down like "only people in this part of Arizona, who used it during this time frame" or whatever, but I suspect it's still just not going to be practical or fruitful. And might even be hard to get a subpoena for.)

 

[priyaya]

I am just getting here due to the lack of power, etc. in the eastern part of the country. What are the thoughts on the sister and brother-in-law? How close is Mexico from Tuscon?

Welcome back to power.
as close to Mexico as LA is to Tucson, like i wouldnt want to make the drive in a day, but you could
and personally the longer this goes on the more i think its a botched robbery
i think the BIL i belive is being scrutinized as he's the last person who saw her alive but no i dont think it was him or there would have been more discovered by now

 

[oviedo]

I am just getting here due to the lack of power, etc. in the eastern part of the country. What are the thoughts on the sister and brother-in-law? How close is Mexico from Tuscon?

TUCSON, Ariz. (NewsNation) — A high-level law enforcement source told journalist Ashleigh Banfield Tuesday that the son-in-law of missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie “may be the prime suspect now” in her disappearance, according to reporting Banfield shared Tuesday night.
Eta

Banfield: Source gives info on cameras, clues and possible suspect in Nancy Guthrie case

Ashleigh Banfield reports on what a longtime, “impeccable” law enforcement source tells her about the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.

www.newsnationnow.com

Google says 60 miles to the border
JMO

 

[ab01]

I identified them. Since those smell like cat pee, I doubt they are part of an arrangement. They are growing next to her porch.

I'm wondering if someone picked them and posed as an arrangement to get her to come to the door?

In the middle of the night? I’m not sure a ruse like that would be necessary….

 

[MinnesotaMary]

I'm beginning to think that the alleged call to AG from someone at NG's church was a ruse. Why else would LE not include the call in the official timeline?

IMO that's no big deal. They didn't include every last public detail on that timeline. For example, they didn't include 'Annie Guthrie phones 911/police non-emergency number'.

 

[aafromaa]

the really weird thing about this is, if he was not connected to the other ransom request, and money was put in the bitcoin wallet, it would not go to him so how crazy is he? wants 15 mins of fame and jail ASAP?

That’s what I was wondering! But then I thought maybe he was trying to change the account or method of payment when he called them too.

 

[K9Enzo]

I'm beginning to think that the alleged call to AG from someone at NG's church was a ruse. Why else would LE not include the call in the official timeline?

Agreed.

It's also possible the bad guys were ready for this to go "live". IMO

 

[SaraSmile]

Correct. To add more to this, she purchased (with her husband) in 1975 for 85,000. With inflation over time, that's the equivalent of spending just over $508,000 today.

Source: Inflation Calculator | Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis Inflation Calculator | Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis

https://www.minneapolisfed.org/about-us/monetary-policy/inflation-calculator

 

[Emerald1328]

I did yup
question
What is a reason someone might prefer a million shorter threads to sift through?

I’ll give you one perspective as someone who still isn’t sure about this longer thread thing I know each case has people that come in late to it that may not know some of the recent developments. It doesn’t bother me when people get on a new thread and ask questions about stuff or request a link we’ve already talked about or stuff that has already been answered. However, with having one big thread, if a person is late to the case and starts reading the thread from the first page, they may reply to some very outdated info if they don’t completely catch up before posting, which then triggers another 10-15 responses of people answering their question, then more posts of it getting rehashed again, etc. I just don’t feel like there were as many outdated posts and duplicate responses to wade through, especially when information is coming in fast so you want to be sure to read every post so you don’t miss anything, when a shorter thread was open.

And to be clear, it is strictly a personal preference reason for me because I can see why most people would like just one thread. If you’re searching for a key word or phrase, just having one thread to search is much easier than 60 threads to search so I do really like that.

 

[Alkali13]

I actually wondered if they could provide the requested crypto but lock it....

My understanding was payment initiated by Thursday, received by Monday. Disclaimer: I know nothing about crypto, but that is my recollection.

 

[jillybean51]

There are so many posts so this may have been addressed already.

What would cause Nancy's pacemaker app to disconnect from the phone?

Out of WiFi range?

 

[Recidivist]

Thank you for this. My husband has a pacemaker, but I didn't know there was an app.

I also have a pacemaker, and I know nothing about an app. I go in every few months and they attach me to their computer and get a reading, such as the percentage of time that the pacemaker has been triggered.

 

[whowy]

I bet the caller has been adamant that their name not be released. Their life will turn into a living nightmare when the press gets a hold of that name.

Maybe NG's church family had planned a special event to celebrate her recent birthday and her intent to attend had been confirmed ?

 

[CandyKiss]

Not sure if someone already mentioned this but regarding the flowers on the ground by the blood at the front door...I just watched on my big screen TV a video (versus looking on my phone like usual) that showed a close up of the Nest cam bracket where the camera was taken from. It looks like on the top left corner behind the bracket is a green stem/leaf. Maybe she had flowers tucked behind the Nest cam as a decoration that got knocked down when the person removed the camera?

This video at 19:28:

Maybe the perp picked the flowers up to block the camera not knowing if it was recording or not? The flowers are fresh, I don't picture NG placing flowers that smell like cat urine in that small space. I noticed she has glass windows next to the door, so if anyone knocked she didn't need the camera for identification.

 

[jvb]

I don't think they would hold someone in a storage unit in Tucson if they expected to return them alive.

I know it's winter, but.....

Some are climate controlled

 

[Emerald1328]

More than dark and brooding, I felt like he looked...tough. Hard. Did I get it right that he's in band? Was that picture of him with other men, the other band members? Maybe they all cultivate that look, which I could understand, because they did all have a similar vibe to me. But, without context, he did look like of rough to me.

I don’t think he has anything to do with it, but I do admit that I initially had a weird feeling when I first saw his picture. I realized, IMO, it’s because to me he looks kind of like Stephan Sterns. Maybe other people subliminally think the same and that’s why they aren’t getting a great vibe from an image haha.