AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Gemmie]

I don't think she grabbed on to the plants as they are quite low to the ground. Plus how would they end up right at the door? They would have been scarttered on the porch.

It literally looks like someone came to door with flowers in their hand as a ruse.

They dropped the flowers when they grabbed Nancy. Note the direction of the blood.

All just MOO. It just looks that way. Not saying it happened that way. But that's how it looks.

She wouldn't have from a standing position, she'd have to be on the ground, and I'm thinking she was at some point. That's why I was thinking she might have been drug away (while on the ground) and was grabbing for anything without even thinking. Just a reflex to not be taken.

I too questioned why there were left where they were. The only thing that makes sense to me is she got hit in the face, went down, whoever it was tried to grab or drag her and she grabbed on to anything in an attempt to not be drug off. If those got torn off during a struggle like that they could have been thrown up (to land where they did) as she flailed around. I'm not of the opinion anyone came to her door with flowers in them middle of the night.

 

[Moonchime]

Does anyone remember early on when the ransom note was reported on, that it was mentioned somewhere about the Thursday/Monday deadlines. But then in the last 24 hours people were responding like it was new information. I could have sworn I'd already heard that somewhere earlier. From what I recall, it was ransom to be sent by Thursday and to be received in their account by Monday. When I heard that I thought well maybe they are allowing time for the transfer - so pay by Thursday and it better be in my account by Monday.

Maybe I'm wrong, there's been so much swirling around

You're remembering correctly. I recall this as well.

 

[stmichael]

Presumably the broken floodlights referenced in the TMZ ransom letter. Anyone can see this from outside and media reports. Too vague imo.
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Yeah, one point is that if the "kidnappers" wanted to initiate "proof" there's much better ways to do it than describe things from the scene AFTER the fact, along with no direct contact, and no proof of life (on an ill 84 year old woman wi pacemaker and no meds) is very sus. Very amateur hour. There could have been many quick and easier concrete ways of establishing proof/authenticity/contact. If it is a genuine kidnapping than this is sloppy but stranger things have happened (think Pain & Gain, about the mid 90s Miami bodybuilders kidnapping and murders)

 

[UsernameRequired]

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard investigative practices as officials continue to investigate Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.

“The car that was at the home, it’s just standard investigative practices. It’s part of the search warrant scene. The court orders, we pull it out of there and do our scene processing with the vehicle,” Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said at a press conference on Thursday.

Nanos did not state who the car belonged to.

Journalist Ashleigh Banfield said on her podcast Drop Dead Serious that officials towed and impounded the vehicle of Annie Guthrie, Nancy’s daughter, citing a law enforcement source.

Nancy Guthrie update: Sheriff responds after Annie Guthrie car sparks rumor

A sheriff said a car was processed as part of standard practices as officials continue investigating Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

www.newsweek.com

Also, I've been looking and cannot locate the source yet, but I do remember someone posted that Annie's car (IF it was hers) is an older car (2005 or 2008?) and this person's belief is it's too old for tracking systems.

I think the Sheriff was referring to Nancy's car at her house.

 

[Moonchime]

Everyday I wake up and check thinking there will finally be a big update on this case. I’m shocked we’re on day 6 now and still nothing

You and me both. I can't imagine the horror that her family is going through.

 

[Sadi]

That is a very bold statement to make. I have suspicions that I'll keep to myself to be nice but the focus on the note and this assertation makes me...question a lot of things I guess.

Could it be because she hasn’t been located yet he’s trying to avoid saying her body hasn’t been recovered? That’s what I’m thinking unfortunately.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I think the confusion with that was originally the time was given of the phone call (11am) and then the time of the police call an hour later. Rather than the time the family arrived at the house. Maybe that has since been confirmed.

Makes sense, thank you.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

So if this wasn't a 2 or more person job, the suspect would have to be quite large/strong or fit.

Knowing they'd have a combative victim. Even though she's older with mobility issues - I bet she's quite strong when fighting back or if was carried.

I have been to the dementia/alzheimers unit, some people are frail looking but quite strong in a fight or flight situation or if scared.

Seems like she was hit to shock her or temporarily immobilize. But the droplets stopped at the door, so she must've been lifted or carried?

 

[MyJoey]

I firmly believe it was NOT a burglary gone wrong. I agree that maybe police didn't reveal anything stolen, but absolutely nothing has pointed to it even remotely being a burglary.

Typically burglars case houses in advance to see if things are worth stealing to begin with. And most burglars don't want to interact with people so they wait until they verify the victim has left the house. Given the location of her house it would be easy to wait for her to leave and steal something during the day with minimal fear of being seen by neighbors.

It wouldn't make sense to sneak into a house when they know someone is sleeping and also not know if there was anything valuable to take before hand.

JMO

Could be both, take what we can get then try for more. Obviously it was more than just a burglary.

 

[Sadi]

I think the Sheriff was referring to Nancy's car at her house.

Wasn’t her car still in her garage when Brian Entin was filming when LE came back the second time? I swear it was shown with LE standing near it talking in the garage.

 

[justme11]

I'm fairly new here, still trying to figure things out, and I tend to be a strict rule-follower--on one of my first (of few) posts, I was very gently chastised by a moderator for quoting a non-acceptable source, and was directed to the website rules.
Am I correct in thinking that insulting a Websleuths member--and in this case, a Websleuths Guardian--goes against Rule #1?
Maybe it's just "an opinion" and is therefore acceptable. My mom taught me that "if I do not have anything nice to say, do not say anything at all." My mom was pretty cool.

They're talking about a reporter, not a Websleuths member.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Everyday I wake up and check thinking there will finally be a big update on this case. I’m shocked we’re on day 6 now and still nothing

We're used to the neighborhood and area's CCTV/ring camera's evidence abound by now but nothing.
imo

 

[shonyakay]

In light of the Sheriff's statement about believing she is alive and talk of the FBI starting to put up billboards asking for information do you guys believe there may have been very recent contact with the alleged abductor/writer of the ransom note?

 

[txsleuth70]

So if this wasn't a 2 or more person job, the suspect would have to be quite large/strong or fit.

Knowing they'd have a combative victim. Even though she's older with mobility issues - I bet she's quite strong when fighting back or if was carried.

I have been to the dementia/alzheimers unit, some people are frail looking but quite strong in a fight or flight situation or if scared.

Seems like she was hit to shock her or temporarily immobilize. But the droplets stopped at the door, so she must've been lifted or carried?

Nanos stated in interview with Banfield, NG did not herself walk out of the house. "She did not leave the house on foot."

 

[academyrd]

6 days in and we have no idea if the ransom note is real or if this is an actual kidnapping or just a murder and hide the body situation. This is among the most bizarre cases I can remember.

 

[tricia]

AOL says family considering taking action against Banfield

Savannah Guthrie's Family 'Exploring Taking Legal Action' Against TV Host Ashleigh Banfield for Claiming Missing Nancy's Son-in-Law is a 'Prime Suspect' in Case

Savannah Guthrie's family is considering "exploring taking legal action" against TV host Ashleigh Banfield, RadarOnline. comcan reveal.

www.aol.com

 

[RayVon]

Just a thought. I think the person entered the home before sundown and was there when she returned home. Possibly, right after she left for dinner.

 

[acutename]

There is a documented history of burglaries turning into sexual homicides. It’s rare, but it happens.

And that might explain why her body was removed, if she was not taken from the house alive (forensic evidence).

I just think there would have been DNA on more than her body if that happened IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

How can he be confident that she will be found alive? No meds, and could very possibly have been deceased from the beginning.

What does he know that makes him say that?

I think he's too emotionally caught up for a sheriff who's heading the local LE and also wants to please SG/family by giving them hope.
imo

 

[stmichael]

So if this wasn't a 2 or more person job, the suspect would have to be quite large/strong or fit.

Knowing they'd have a combative victim. Even though she's older with mobility issues - I bet she's quite strong when fighting back or if was carried.

I have been to the dementia/alzheimers unit, some people are frail looking but quite strong in a fight or flight situation or if scared.

Seems like she was hit to shock her or temporarily immobilize. But the droplets stopped at the door, so she must've been lifted or carried?

She's an 84 year old woman that's 150 pounds with a pacemaker and on meds, and described as not being "able to walk 50 yards".

Most healthy young men could pick her up. Heck I'm not young and I'm able to swing my 150 pound son over my shoulder when he's fighting me (and I imagine he puts up more fight than an 84 year old w pacemaker who struggles to walk 50 yards).