Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Moonchime]

Forgive me this is probably a silly question but I keep wondering, how was a person/movement detected on the doorbell at 2:12am, after it was disconnected at 1:47am?

From my understanding, the image was caught by a different outside camera.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

If this is in fact the same author of the first letter this changes everything we know about the case.

It sounds to me like the media is confident the first and second messages were sent by the same sender — MOO but I wonder if the second message contained the same Bitcoin address included in the first ransom demand.

ETA: Bitcoin addresses are long strings of alphanumeric characters, making it an easy and (assuming the address has not been used for any prior transactions) probably untraceable way for the sender to confirm their “identity” in follow-up communications. JMO.

 

[bestill]

Well if TMZ gets sent a copy of this second letter too, we should know its contents by tonight.

You know they are chopping at the bit and hitting refresh over and over!

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019902921283104827

 

[whitelilac]

What would be the reason to share this with the general public and not LE only??

Notoriety and ego

 

[SeattleStew]

Find myself wondering could all communications have been drafted in advance which is why these long gaps between and then set to send at certain points so as to avoid being traced or noticed.

Am considering if someone within family was involved they could have set these to send before they were under LE scrutiny?

I think you bring up good points I had thought of. I really appreciate your way of thinking, I like to get out of my blind spots. Interesting that the ransom note was characterized as "well-written" considering occupations NG's Tucson relatives that drove to her house last Sunday.

 

[Idreamofgenie]

It would take two people to carry NG to the car.

If the couple drove up to the house, a female ringing the doorbell would cause less suspicion?

Then when NG opens the door, the man punches NG in the face which causes the blood splatter on the porch. It renders her unconscious. Then they carry her to the sedan and drive off.

They don't even have to go into the house.

But, LE decided it was a “crime” when they said that “things in the house” made them realize it. So there’s evidently some clues inside the house that led them to come to that conclusion (blood, disturbances, etc)

 

[Cassie P]

If this is really from the original source then they are back peddling off of the only one communication. Interesting.

Why would a kidnapper back peddle? Things are going the way they hoped? Or there is more than one kidnapper and they are not in agreement?

 

[MassGuy]

What would be the reason to share this with the general public and not LE only??

They did share it with the FBI, and held back the content.

Very newsworthy that they received it, and there’s no way they wouldn’t announce it.

 

[clearskies1]

DBM

 

[Aquabot13]

where.....has it been said that the kidnapper is adept to high-level almost militariastic operations? Where has evidence been of that?

I would consider kidnapping and evading the FBI for almost a week both physically and digitally pretty high-level. Not something I'd expect the average citizen to be able to do without some sort of defense-adjacent training. It seems professional. JMO.

 

[Cassie P]

But, LE decided it was a “crime” when they said that “things in the house” made them realize it. So there’s evidently some clues inside the house that led them to come to that conclusion (blood, disturbances, etc)

Thank you! I was not sure if there was intruder evidence inside the home or not.

 

[Gemmie]

Why would anyone, let alone an elderly lady, open their door at that time of night though? It makes no sense.

Heck, I don't even open my door in the daylight if I'm not expecting anyone, and I've had 2 knockers already today (the doorbell is unhooked).

So in the middle of the night, like it was for Nancy? Nope. No way was she going to answer the door, unless they banged and said "Fire department!!", and/or, she was groggy and not thinking clearly from being woken from a deep sleep.

 

[RatFace]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019902921283104827

To verify info that was in the second ransom note?!

 

[Friday Fan]

ChatGBT could also help create a letter like this, these days.

Especially considering that they are into crypto. One can guarantee, this ransom letter was written via AI. No doubt about it!

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I wonder if the new ransom email told the cops to go and look for something specific at the house and that’s why they’ve returned.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019902921283104827

New letter must have had more info for them to fact check at the scene

 

[shonyakay]

This doesn't sound good. Unless they are are searching for something the alleged kidnapper left for LE to find

 

[MassGuy]

To verify info that was in the second ransom note?!

Sounds about right to me!

 

[MarciB]

Ring cameras subscription was a flat 99 bucks a few years ago. That includes all devices and unlimited cloud storage, PLUS it covers monitoring for their Ring alarm including Police and Fire. I think this may be a case of oversight, where the homeowner lapsed on their cc and was going to "get around to it".

Additionally I think there is a lot of ignorant bliss among elderly people living in their "safe neighborhood". They probably stubbornly thought they didn't need it and one of the elderly neighbors interviewed echoed this sentiment and had some laughably out of touch quotes on security (he'll use a pen and pad to write strange things now and his metal doors protect him)

Yes, I was just talking to my sister about that. That Nancy Guthrie didn't want to mess with the cameras except maybe the doorbell one