AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Charlot123]

That's so creepy, do they actually let the people go once ransom is met? Terrifying.

I know it's been brought up in the thread (from parts I've read trying to keep up), I guess I have to remember AZ being close to the border and be open to that (I'm Canadian so seems so nuts to me this happens!!)

I googled about how often people are returned after ransom is paid IRL.

I was surprised. I thought the numbers would be close to 0’s and they are close to 90’s.

It is a business. And an agreement. And as in any business, you as the “vendor” have to keep your part of the bargain.

Moreover, the amount can be negotiated. So as long as it is a typical cartel-organized business, think “merchants”. So “don’t pay them, they never return people back” is the worst reputation they can ever get.

About you being a Canadian…the reason it seems nuts to you is because both Canadian and US border patrol works very well!

When we traveled to Canada and our kid was young, both on the Canadian side and back in the US, we had to answer a lot of questions. With legal passports and the kid being our spitting image. Once the question they asked the kid was so adult that it surprised me. They explained, very politely, that there are cases of kids being trafficked and they have to prevent it.
So that’s why it sounds nut to you. They are just very good.

 

[crhedBngr]

Why would that be?

So the searchers could do their business without attracting a lot of attention.

ETA: We're seeing a feed from the Fox News Drone; yet, I don't see it on Flightaware.

JMVHO.

 

[Trino]

There has to be many ways into Mexico around there they can't block every inch of the border? Could she be over the border?

Has to be some place where a vehicle can be taken.

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019916849744650252

 

[No it’s not]

So, if this is indeed a true kidnapping for ransom, they did not think of taking something from the house? Or leaving something behind, an object, a letter, a something..? Maybe they did..?

As proof of authenticity they mention the broken floodlights? Something everyone close to the house could have observed (a local?). And then they mention something about where the Apple Watch was located? That gave me pause. You either plan a kidnapping for ransom in all details IMO including how to render proof of abduction or proof of victim’s life or you do not really plan a kidnapping, but it happens. In that case of all things why remembering the location of the Apple Watch??

Usually one keeps their (apple) watch in the same place overnight. Usually on a charger or on something that is a charger but looks like something else. Either way, this sounds like someone, who has routinely entered the house, like a cleaning crew or a contractor, or a friend. Someone, who is or was used to seeing that watch in that location. I believe the ransom note(s) is/are an after thought of an amateur, who took up more than they could swallow.

When they released the property I thought, okay, perhaps the abductor will show and leave something..and that’s why LE released it. If they indeed came back, they are fried now..just saying.

I would say chances are high they will get the person or people behind taking Mrs Guthrie. And I pray we will see her back safe and sound.


Cheers,
Nin

 

[MassGuy]

The vallow/daybell case was pretty out there!

lol it was, but I mostly stayed away from that one. Def up there.

 

[MommaV]

Savannah Guthrie’s Mom’s House Sees FBI Activity Minutes After New Message News Breaks​

After what was described as a quiet day, authorities were back at Nancy’s property on Friday afternoon.

Feb 6, 2026 6:21 PM EST

Savannah Guthrie's Mom's House Sees FBI Activity Minutes After New Message News Breaks

After what was described as a quiet day, authorities were back at Nancy's property on Friday afternoon.

parade.com

Did the new letter provide another piece of evidence and its location again?

 

[tricia]

There has to be many ways into Mexico around there they can't block every inch of the border? Could she be over the border?

Let's hope so. That would mean she is probably alive. However, this is unlikely, but the thing is, we just don't know.
IMO she is no longer with us. I really want to be wrong.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I take that you did not follow the Jimmy Hoffa or the J Paul Getty case. OK, the J Paul Getty case was just weird. They cut off his fricking ear and sent it to police. (Happened in Italy, not the US)

Oh and add Patty Hearst. She was the talk of our senior year in HS. She was a year or two older than us. Former cheerleader, turned terrorist bank robber. We were enthralled and couldn't stop watching and talking about it.

Actually I think Luigi and Idaho 4 were crazier than this.

I think it was someone who knew NG and is just getting a bit lucky.
I don't know if these ransom emails are hoaxes are not. Going out to the scene again could be to verifiy that these emails are not hoaxes.

Agree with Friday Fan that the perp knew NG. IMHO, it's possible that a ransom email is legit but, in my opinion, it just seems more likely that the ransom messages are a distraction.

 

[bestill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019913309122928977

Where can I find live video? Checked tiktok, youtube and instagram and didn't find anything.

That's where I saw it. Thanks @citizen_sleuth

 

[Alkali13]

yes but...not an English teacher. and to be fair, not all poetry is about proper spelling, grammar, punctuation. Sometimes that's part of poetry.

I don't think family is involved, BUT AG is also a professor of creative writing iirc.

 

[Sessiebo]

And her body has just been near the house this whole time? That would be terrible.

I don't think her body is near the house but i think the fam maybe is desperate and just pays enough to satisfy the perp(s) so they bolt and make it that Nancy can be found, albeit deceased

 

[GailAnne]

Jayme Closs is a case that always sticks with me.

Remember the Casey Anthony and Caylee case?

 

[Megnut]

One person can't maybe carry a live or deceased victim but one person can force the victim to walk. Disable the camera, bring a car around, break in, force NG to walk to the car. The injury might have been unplanned --

JMO

 

[Moonstrawbs]

There's software designed to detect AI, and there are a lot of telltale signs of AI as well.

The issue is that AI is fed so much information that it can mimic human writing very easily. A lot of AI checkers can be quite redundant due to this and the advancements AI is making every single day. In my last year of university, this was an issue with many students and they couldn't prove it either way. It's frustrating and quite scary moving forward...jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Well, I do keep saying/thinking it is the fastest moving thread I have seen here on WS, but I have not been on the site for all that many years..
@MassGuy ... do you sense that as well..... the lightening speed, and the amount of posting activity since thread initiation??? Or are you actually referencing the twists and turns

I was talking about twists and turns, but this thread is among the fastest I’ve seen too.

This one emotionally grabs a lot of people, from the unprecedented crime, victimology, her being the mother of a famous woman, and this being straight out of Hollywood.

 

[missy1974]

Wasn't the letter received at 11am MST? Why wait so long to double check what was written in the note? It would've been the easiest way to initially verify it.

we don't know WHAT they are trying to authenticate. It could be a photo? a video? an audio file?

I imagine they just waited this long to tell the public.

JMO

 

[emigrate]

what happened to the drone, who were those two guys who didn't want to be filmed

 

[avalonisland]

It's interesting that some pieces of the lantana are laying directly on the blood drops. It looks like some pieces may have fell after the blood drops fell. Just an observation.

The blood droplets could have been present earlier than 2/1/26. The fact that flower debris on porch shows to me that little maintenance on keepting front door area clean.

 

[whitelilac]

I'm really concerned why they've blocked off the whole stretch of street, unlike yesterday, if they are just searching for something to authenticate this new note. For an object in the house for example?
Reporters would see if any forensic vehicles, coroners arrive though right? An ambulance would be more positive.

seems that Fox bird's eye view drone has been cut off too.

This is so disturbing, and I can't imagine how the children are feeling now, especially SG.
I need to go for a walk....