AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[curiouscatinoc]

This is the second news outlet saying that a letter was well written/structured. That stands out to me.

Are they playing to the ego of the person who wrote it? Are the letters structured in some sort of particularly striking way?

I just don't think that even a "well-written" ransom note would make me publicly comment on the fact that it was well written. Seems like a given that an adult who planned a kidnapping and led law enforcement on a week long wild goose chase could put together some paragraphs.

Maybe the kidnapper is waxing poetic?

MOO

I think well written could actually be a good clue if these are real ransom letters. IMO, well written implies good grammar and proper punctuation.

This could mean a few things:
1. English is difficult to learn as a second language unless you started young because we structure our sentences differently than other languages. They would be able to tell if English was a second language pretty easily.
2. They could determine age range of writer. Younger millennials and Gen Z write completely different than other generations because they grew up with a computer in their house. They’re more likely to use shorthand and acronyms.
3. They could determine education level based on how well written letters are. (Their, there, they’re).
4. They can determine region of origin in the US based on differences in how we refer to certain things (casita vs guest house/ sidewalk vs walkway/ highway vs. freeway, etc.).

They most likely have already developed a profile of who they think they’re looking for based on how these ransom letters are written if they believe they are in fact real.

 

[keek]

that doesn't say WHY

I believe it does, otherwise if you know you know. Good reason and applaud WS. IMO

 

[EJB123456]

The house is older and was probably considered pretty remote when it was built. Maybe the small structure is a well house?

almost certainly a casita/guest house. It is air conditioned and casitas are typical in upscale large lot Arizona homes.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

This is the circle k discussed Google Maps

Question: Do we know why the Circle K? And where is that in relation to AG's?

Again, I don't think the family is involved, but I'm curious.

 

[Magic8Ball]

The Circle K on Oracle Road is about a 10 minute drive from NG's home (link to Google Maps)
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Thank you for the link to the google map! I have never figured out the dropping pins thingy.

I added a third destination address and looked it up.

It's...suggestive.

JMO.

 

[osu]

Investigators looking at something in the front yard.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.

Link

 

[Emerald1328]

I would imagine LE has had the house under surveillance since she went missing, as often criminals return to the scene.

Usually I see that more when they are returning to where the victim is, or where the house they burnt down is. Somewhere they can admire their handiwork, the gruesome bits. But it’s possible.

 

[auburnmomof2]

There was no proof of life, and no further demands apparently.

There was also this report, which I found interesting. It has been posted a bunch, but it's easy to miss with this thread going so fast:

Police probing leads about a vehicle​

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Tom Winter, Andrew Blankstein and Chloe Atkins
Law enforcement officials in Arizona are searching for a vehicle or vehicles that may be connected to the Nancy Guthrie investigation, NBC News has learned.

A Circle K spokesperson told NBC News that law enforcement visited one of their stores on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.”

Officials haven’t said if the vehicle or vehicles are definitively connected to any part of the crime, or if that lead has since evaporated.

Thank you! My tired eyes are very thankful lol

 

[marloweclover]

almost certainly a casita/guest house. It is air conditioned and casitas are typical in upscale large lot Arizona homes.

I thought there was some much smaller thing beyond that, sort of in the larger vegetation.

 

[stmichael]

Well, I doubt they pay anyone without proof, so I guess he does.

It;s interesting because in our current AI age fraudsters are actually doing "proof of life scams" Even the famous 1932 Lindbergh baby kidnapping had several scam notes and extortion demands.

Last year, the FBI warned people of a “proof of life” scam, where fraudsters alter photos from social media to extort people in fake ransom scams.

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams

 

[auburnmomof2]

• FBI received another ‘ransom note.’
• Police moved journalist to the end of the street and blocked off all entry.
• Police informed neighbors they would search for properties in that area.
• FBI arrived at NG home ‘searching’ for something.
• FBI pictured on top of pool room removing either a solar-powered motion detector spotlight – which may also have a camera (unknown)

Thank you! I was trying to sift through and got frustrated lol

 

[Luna20]

TMZ boss says Nancy Guthrie could still be in the Tucson area, ransom note was ‘very specific, well organized’

“The letter begins by saying she is safe, but scared, and they go on to say she knows exactly what the demand is.”

nypost.com

 

[Alkali13]

I think I stared at that thing more than I watched them do whatever they were doing on the roof. It's really bothering me not knowing what it is! Random, but it kind of looked like an outhouse to me. Weird place for one.

Guest house.

 

[Alkali13]

Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.

Link?

 

[LAborn]

It;s interesting because in our current AI age fraudsters are actually doing "proof of life scams" Even the famous 1932 Lindbergh baby kidnapping had several scam notes and extortion demands.

Last year, the FBI warned people of a “proof of life” scam, where fraudsters alter photos from social media to extort people in fake ransom scams.

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams

SG even talked about this in the sibling video, they are well aware. Not sure what the precautions are now, but there must be updated forms to combat it.

 

[Navillus923]

I'll believe it when I see it. This all has been so strange.

I have searched everywhere and cannot find it any videos on YouTube or anywhere else of them saying this can you please provide the link.

 

[MommaV]

I fear she is in the duct work or whatever that is called with the heating and cooling system or in the planter. I can't take it, no way are they not looking for a body now. Please let my

I'll believe it when I see it. This all has been so strange.

I'll believe it when I see it. This all has been so

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019965911399309349

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I haven't been watching video, only reading here -- can anyone confirm that the building where the camera/floodlight/whatever was removed was for sure the main house? Or could it have been on the casita instead?