AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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A potential deviation in all of this is that the cameras may be the kidnapper(s) and he/she/they referenced them in the second letter. Indeed, what if the perp was watching the investigators? 😳

JMO.
As I said upthread.I have that same camera.It can be ā€œ sharedā€ outside of the owners access.
 
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So police and forensics were at AGs house for 5 mins?
 
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Just a guess—they might’ve done preliminary basic tests like dusting for prints, luminal etc but maybe they have new information now to suspect they need to go deeper

moo
or they might have f'ed up.
 
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I don't think fingerprinting is really even used anymore with the advances of DNA. It's a pretty unreliable and outdated science.
I don't have time to eleborate, but as a LEO, all of this couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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What are people thinking? (I am still hoping she is alive, but I do not believe this is the case, sadly.)

The garage door opened and closed, twice? Once (open and close) before midnight, to let her in after the ride home from dinner? Then again (so sorry, here) sometime around 3 am so that a murderer, driving her car, transported her lifeless body, somewhere?

This is horrific.
I just don't know how poor NG will be able to survive the stress alone of this situation. Coupled with a non-working pacemaker and missing "life-saving" medication, it just doesn't seem survivable to me. Peace be with you, dear Nancy.
 
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Biggest take away of the night is that around 4-5 hours ago, @MassGuy made a post that breaking news could possibly happen at any moment and then news has been breaking all night long. Someone needs to check out that dude's electronics and basement ;)
I was dead wrong about this being solved quickly, so I'll take my wins where I can get them.

I do get the impression things are moving quickly towards a conclusion, for real this time.
 
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I don't have time to eleborate, but as a LEO, all of this couldn't be further from the truth.
I couldn’t really see a world where fingerprints are no longer relevant in crime
 
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Evidence/Analysis truck spotted on right at AGs house
Must be collecting evidence at AG's house. Likely they know the whereabouts of AG and SG and were not going to AG's house to discuss case updates since they knew they weren't there tonight. With the evidence/analysis truck at AG's house, it seems likely that they are collecting possible evidence. JMO
 
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Thinking along these lines… if she took an Uber to AG’s house, wouldn’t she need to have it with her on the ride? Or could it be avoided if AG/SIL called the Uber for her?

I’m also interested to see where the info about the phone in her car came from.

You wouldn’t necessarily need to have a phone to ride in an Uber but you would need a phone to order an Uber. AG/SIL could’ve ordered an Uber to pick up their mother.
 
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It's reported that AG house is empty so it's not to record another video, so likely another once over?
so not even ag or tc staying there?
 
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Maybe the reason she took an Uber that night is because someone borrowed her car?
Good thinking! Anyone she is close to could have borrowed it. But one scenario is a family member took Nancy's car to be serviced for her. It'd explain why Nancy used Uber to get to her daughter's house for dinner. One family member could have driven her home in her car, since Nancy did not drive at night, followed by another family member in their own vehicle to take the driver home.
 
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Can someone explain why LE waited this long to tow the car? Had it not been searched in site earlier! I really need to know cuz this makes me go crazy.
Spitballing here, but if you followed the Gabby Petito case, the perpetrator in that case was allowed to slip away because law enforcement confused him for his mom. Sometimes, the professionals just aren't that great at their jobs. *shrugs* 😬
 
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Yes, and the whole family staying at the house. Cannot imagine.
apparently not anymore..... i'm seeing several posts saying the house is empty.
 
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We really need an LE update at this point. Understand why there isn’t one but it’s letting the speculation run wild
 
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