I wasn’t in that one either
"Nancy Guthrie left her mobile phone behind in her car, and the search for her was nearing the 48-hour mark by Tuesday morning."
Savannah Guthrie asks for prayers as police believe her mother was abducted
www.independent.co.uk
the pacemaker synced with the watch - doesn't necessarily mean that happened at the home. only that at around 2 am NG and the watch were near each other. the watch is transportable. and was found on sunday in the home. perhaps it was later placed there. just a random thought, fwiw, and MOO.
I don't think they would get involved in this. They usually pick on other cartel members or poor immigrants. The last thing they need is LE drawing attention to something like this.
If this was the case the apple watch would have extractable GPS data to show it wasn't at home.
It is the preference of most major “style guides” like MLA, APA, etc., but it’s a hotly debated issue!
I’ve dropped that from the likely list since the second letter. SIL would have little reason to write a second note and it would be very risky with all eyes on him. The thinking had been he set it up to hide having killed her, not for bitcoin. So if the second letter is from same source as the first, chance it’s SIL are ZERO in my opinion.
lots of folks, for example, involved in affairs, have a burner phone that others don't know about. easy enough to send a message to a media contact line from a burner. just my opinion, fwiw. but you'd be surprised how many folks are leading secret lives, affairs, etc. Much more common than Folks are willing to admit, in MOO.
While it’s true the batteries can last numerous years depending on how dependent people are on them, they are not resuscitative devices, and they will not keep a dying person alive. Most dying patients become acidotic before cardiac arrest, which effectively renders a pacemaker nonfunctional, because under these conditions the heart muscle does not respond to the pacemaker's electrical discharges. For most patients, an active pacemaker will not affect the timing or circumstances of death.
I'm kind of tired of the ransom/proof of life topic, so I am going to try to stop after this post. And also I don't know why I am defending the validity of the ransom note when I am not even convinced myself that it's real. But.....
I really think people are clinging too rigidly to "proof of life" as an indicator of whether the note is real or not. Kidnappers and ransomers do not have a strict standard operating procedure they adhere to. They do not have a code of conduct. They do not have a script they are following. This is not a movie, and the ransomers are not robots. They are each individuals, most of whom are probably mentally unwell, desperate, or both, and who are not necessarily easily predictable. You can not assume that they will just do the thing that seems to obvious, or that "any kidnapper would do." IMHO it's completely nonsensical to dismiss the ransom note out of hand just because they haven't provided proof of life.
I get why one would want proof of life before paying a ransom. I do. It makes complete sense.
But it makes just as much sense for the ransomer to want to divulge as little information as possible. They are clearly very aware of how things can be traced. I'm not even talking about metadata in photos or videos - that stuff is trivial to strip off. But even a single missed detail in the background of a photo can be very revealing. Ever see those people on YouTube or TikTok who find locations all over the world from a single photo or a short video? Even if the proof of life contained far less detail than one of those, it's a reminder to everyone that things you think might not give away who or where you are can inadvertently do just that.
And at the end of the day, who has what to lose here if the ransomer doesn't give proof of life? The most the ransomer will lose is the money that they may or may not get. The most the family has to lose is their beloved family member. It does not seem like much of a stretch to think that a perp with a certain mindset would decide to play hardball in this way and refuse to divulge any more info.
And now, I will go to bed. How many more posts will I have to read in the morning?
Gone blind
Perhaps if he was acting alone. But, that would be dumb.
There wasn’t any confusion. You posted a link that had been spoken about at length in this thread yesterday. Multiple posters told you that.
I'm really splitting hairs here (sorry
) but IMO Tucson is border town the same way Montreal is (same distance, if not closer, to the border). Borders are some of the most highly policed areas in the world -- I really, really doubt cartel members would cross the border into the US and cross back into Mexico to obtain a ransom.
One would hope that LE had extracted the data early on from the Apple Watch, but let’s say they didn’t until the FBI became more involved. With the ransom note allegedly stating exactly where the Apple Watch was left at in the house could indicate that the kidnapper/s placed it in a specific spot themselves. Maybe they finally extracted the data today and it is giving them more info to where NG was at the time that the pacemaker had synced with the watch and that is why there is all of this new movement going on?
