AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[gammagirl]

They also know she was alive when she got back to her home because her phone synced up to her pacemaker until the two things were separated around 2 am.

Could have been separated at some other location and phone/watch brought back to her house

 

[Sadi]

can it be determined how long the blood was there?

I did look into that yesterday, but the explanations were all over the place from weeks to years. Also exposure to weather etc.

 

[SMK777]

can it be determined how long the blood was there?

Same question I have.

 

[khaki]

They also know she was alive when she got back to her home because her phone synced up to her pacemaker until the two things were separated around 2 am.

Good point. I am not quite clear on all of this and was wondering if it's possible the watch and phone were separated from her somewhere besides her house.

edit: oof, I see gammagirl just asked the same question

 

[detective.moon]

This case falls in one of those categories like Jon Bennet or Kyron Horman where something just does not add up. Here me out: SG is in her 50s?? host of a daytime morning type show, right? Let's assume the kidnapper targeted NG due to the fame of SG. Asking for bitcoin seems like a "younger generation" play that would put kidnapper in 20s, 30s age range. Why not target Justin Beiber's grandma for example? The point im trying to make is if the kidnapper is targeting NG due to SG fame, it seems like a generational mismatch. I cant see SG being well known to a dude in his 30s. Now, based on that mismatch it points to someone local who knew of her fame. Local dishwasher at restaurant who knew NG had rich famous daughter. Or finally, someone from inside family concocting a super weird Fargo plot. This is my thought dump for the moment!!

i was thinking the same thing!

my thoughts about the person who did this (though to be honest, with such a strange case i’m prepared to be completely off)
- bitcoins became popular in the mainstream around 2013. i could see a more tech savvy person in their 30s get into them around that time, someone like that could even be in their early 50s now! so the perp doesn’t have to be super young imo
- the silence of the lambs came out in 1991, so around 35 years ago. i do think it’s a classic, i’m in my early 30s and i’ve seen it too. it makes me think the perp is 30+ but i also think referencing movies in his ransom letter, and using movies as code (if that’s what’s happened) especially says something about his personality - someone who likes to show off his knowledge or who likes to pretend he’s in a movie
- i also think only a local would choose to target NG
- doing this in the dead of night, in the weekend, makes me think it might be someone with a monday to friday job and maybe a partner or family who were not supposed to notice he went missing for a few hours
- could also be two people working together, but i’m not really sure about that

 

[Sadi]

Yeah, in my opinion, she’s blown it big time.

Not saying this happened, but could she have heard something, went out the front door to look, walked down the step or stoop? Maybe that’s what she was referring to? But I don’t think that happened.

 

[Warwick1991]

I agree they appear to be passive blood drops as she stood at the front door area bleeding. There is what appears to me to be a projected/impact spatter to the right of the mat - meaning a force coming in to contact with an already actively bleeding source. Although, it is possible that it could be aspirated blood from a couch or sneeze while actively bleeding. Hopefully LE tested that area to determine if there was air/mucus mixed in with the blood. Poor Nancy.

I have to think that, in general, 2 people would be more likely than 1 if a possibly unconscious or disabled Nancy was carried from her house and to a vehicle. If Nancy wasn't walking out herself, but was being carried out, that could explain the blood spatter. Whoever was carrying her out may have taken little care to prevent impacts to her body as she was being removed from the house.

It would be difficult for 1 person to carry her out - she's probably at least 100 pounds, probably more - and then get her into a vehicle. It is possible for 1 strong, likely male individual, but awkward. Doors need to be opened and closed. It could be done, but with 2 people it would much quicker and easier.

I lean against this being a real kidnapping. I think there was some kind of family dispute over money or inheritance, and violence occurred.

It's my opinion that Nancy is no longer alive, and that the kidnapping is some kind of hoax.

 

[dotr]

7 Feb 2026 rbbm.

Blood droplets, a white van, a ransom note: where is Savannah Guthrie’s mother?

The astonishing case of the missing Today morning show anchor’s mom is six days in so far and without resolution

www.theguardian.com

''The Guthrie case is both old-fashioned – a ransom note sounds almost quaint – and what might have once been a demand for a suitcase of cash in non-sequential, used, small-denomination bills at a drop-off is now a transfer of cryptocurrency.
In December, the FBI warned that people posing as kidnappers can provide what appears to be a real photo or video of a loved one, along with demands for money''

Bryanna Fox, a former FBI profiler and professor of criminology at the University of South Florida who has previously appeared on NBC’s Today show with Savannah Guthrie, says the case is indeed perplexing.

“I’ve never seen a case where the ransom notes were sent to the media and the family’s response was not done at a press conference but posted on Instagram,” she says. “The ransom itself was not asked for as cash in a bag, and we can’t even rely on the ransom is real and proof of life is real because of artificial intelligence.

“And all of it – Bitcoin, AI, TMZ and Instagram – wrapped together in a conversion of pop culture things,” Fox adds.
Then, naturally, there is a political fringe to it. Almost as soon a Guthrie’s disappearance became public, there was speculation online of involvement of the Mexican cartels operating the border. Had Guthrie tipped off would-be abductors when she invited Today cameras in her mother’s home months ago?''

 

[SeattleStew]

A question and a thought about the camera we saw removed from NG's house yesterday.

Did LE remove all the exterior cameras? Or just this one?

If just this one, perhaps additional information from the forensic examination of the camera/security software system revealed additional information from this one camera location, and the camera itself was removed as physical evidence?

 

[Tealgrove]

I fear too many cooks in the kitchen.

We’ve seen it before. Delphi, Jon Benet etc.

I am shocked that NG’s house hasn’t been secured consistently. If true that a neighbour tipped LE to the camera on the roof of the Guest House, shame on LE.

I sincerely want to know if her cane is missing.

I also want to know if NG is independently wealthy. Was NG chosen as a victim because of her wealth or that of her celebrity daughter?

I do not think there will be a good outcome here.

MOO

 

[turaj]

Maybe this was mentioned earlier. Also apologize for spitballing...

Assuming that this ransom note author is connected to NG abduction. And is the same author of the second letter received via tip by KOLD tonight. IMO, the author of these letters loves the media attention and seeming like they are smarter than LE. But why KOLD specifically? Why pick to send a letter to TMZ, KGUN and KOLD. Then send a second letter solely to KOLD as a tip? Then maybe Harvey Levin of TMZ is correct to believe that this perp is local to Arizona.

Levin's reason for think it is local based on choice of stations to me is a non starter. Of course it. is easy to see who is reporting on the kidnapping and they would go to those stations. I think Harvey indicated there was another reason to think it is locals.

 

[Sadi]

IIRC the Sheriff also said it was released back to them too and just standard. Although taking NG's car apparently was not during the first search lol

They would take their car to process it if it was the last vehicle she was in.

I find it almost incredible that no media caught them taking the car, but JMO.

Otherwise tomorrow, please let it be soon. Several pages back, sheriff said something to the effect of what they found or were looking for at N’s house wasn’t going to be released out of respect to the family. That is pretty telling and sad. I hate to even think what happened to her and what her family and friends are going through.

 

[sriraaacha]

The quote that Savannah said in that video clip is so weird/creepy. The delivery of the message was the same, almost like she was recreating that scene. Nothing of significance to add, just finding this whole situation so strange.

 

[shadowsc]

Good observations on my post. If we follow on down from my logic and your expanded "rule outs" then that leaves someone local who just knows NG as a "wealthy" lady compared to them, right? Someone who knows shes maybe sort of famously connected for some reason, but not somone who targeted her because of SG. Would that be your arguement? But I agree, I think there are way wealthier people that could have relatives targeted if it was simply about money. But, again, something just feels odd and off and I cant really put my finger on it! But again me trying to get in the head of a person who would do this is really an exercise in futility.

I don't know! Savannah isn't really an all that controversial journalist. She was scheduled to go off to the Olympics which is mostly just morning show highlights.

And if someone was trying to get to her to suppress some kind of upcoming story or send a message to media not to report some story, at this point way too many people are involved to keep it quiet. LE has seen it. TMZ has seen it. Local news media anchors have seen it. Whatever new intern monitors the local tip line inbox has seen it. Way too many eyes to send a private message to SG.

So I don't even have a theory at this point. Nothing makes sense.

 

[bkgregg5]

Yeah, that is a really big problem with her car being involved.

Holding it back doesn't seem to work, because you'd fully expect them to have towed the car if they knew the garage had been opened later on.

I guess disconnected could work...

It's an issue.

I’m still about 30 pages behind, but maybe the perp manually disconnected the garage door from the track and opened the door to get the car out. We’ve had to do that when we’ve lost power. Simply disconnect the door from the track and lift it. That would bypass using the garage door opener and leaving an electronic record of when it opens and closes.

 

[thefragile7393]

I don't know! Savannah isn't really an all that controversial journalist. She was scheduled to go off to the Olympics which is mostly just morning show highlights.

And if someone was trying to get to her to suppress some kind of upcoming story or send a message to media not to report some story, at this point way too many people are involved to keep it quiet. LE has seen it. TMZ has seen it. Local news media anchors have seen it. Whatever new intern monitors the local tip line inbox has seen it. Way too many eyes to send a private message to SG.

So I don't even have a theory at this point. Nothing makes sense.

she's controversial in certain political circles, if you watched the aftermath after one of the presidential debates years back. And that stuff is STILL going around

 

[turaj]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other about the phone's location, but it states that the phone was found at the home, not in it. I take it that they are telling the reader that NG did not take the phone with her. If the phone was in her car, it was at the home.

early on it was said that phone was in the car.

 

[Janitor101]

So perhaps referencing Silence of the Lambs when talking to kidnappers is part of an old FBI protocol which at one time was effective based on data? Even though on the surface it is counterintuitive?

I would think the FBI would periodically update their protocols. Something effective in 1991 may not be effective in 2026.

Also this one size fits all and outdated strategy goes agains the entire notion of psych profiling which is to understand the unique personality of the perpetrator and develop a specific response strategy based on that personality. If the strategy is old and generic, then there is no need for profilers.

Criminal profiling continues to make advancements year after year in this field. They study crime scene behavior and offer advice to assist LE in narrowing down a suspect pool. You can't dismiss them outright as they are one of many investigative tools in any LE officers toolbox to utilize during investigations.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Today will be the day. Im speaking that into existence

I hope so! I'm having a difficult time sleeping wondering where Nancy is...

 

[gammagirl]

I feel multiple players are involved. Someone with intimate knowledge of the family and home who possibly provided another criminal mind with details needed to carry out crime.... i feel it was 100% premeditated. I also feel this will be solved. moo