AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SeattleStew]

Just catching up here...Her car is important because its being reported that the watch was found in the car. They are looking for perps DNA when the watch was placed in the car. Hopefully they have found a profile for the perp.

Watch in the car? Could you please link your source, thank you.

 

[EJB123456]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

Every single person here is going to ask you what you mean about collecting the elusive white van. This is not information we have at the moment. Please elaborate.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

My Mum is nearly 80, if someone was at her door in the early hours and she didn't recognise them, she would phone me, and definitely not answer the door. If there is no sign of a break in, then my question would be - what lured NG to open the door? Someone pretending to be in trouble? Someone she knew? Or was she simply tired and disorientated and went to the door on autopilot? Did someone threaten her or something close to her?

 

[shonyakay]

can it be determined how long the blood was there?

I would assume that they would have a general idea just based on the color as blood tends to turn darker after a certain amount of time.

 

[turaj]

IMO, if those were legit ransom notes from the kidnapper, they would have been left in Nancy's home. And the heading would have been Dear Savannah, We have your mom, please wire 4 million to this address within 24 hours or you will never see her again, No Joke

No copies to TMZ or WOLD , no waiting 4 days and then giving 2 different end dates.

I think the notes are deflections by the perps, to distract from the real situation

Do we have any proof that a note was NOT left at the home night of abduction?

 

[missy1974]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

Thank you for posting!

They have found the white van? If so, assuming it's not connected?

Hitting the button... if I had the money to do it and we don't have more info soon, I think I would. The company she works for should be offering to pay it. Would be a good PR move IMO and just get the rights to the 'story'.

 

[KellySleuth]

I could've sworn they said the garage door times were estimates during the last presser

The sheriff really stressed that, as I recall.

 

[osu]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

RBBM
They've collected the white van that was reportedly parked in the neighborhood a few days before Nancy went missing?

 

[NoeticSoul]

I fear too many cooks in the kitchen.

We’ve seen it before. Delphi, Jon Benet etc.

I am shocked that NG’s house hasn’t been secured consistently. If true that a neighbour tipped LE to the camera on the roof of the Guest House, shame on LE.

I sincerely want to know if her cane is missing.

I also want to know if NG is independently wealthy. Was NG chosen as a victim because of her wealth or that of her celebrity daughter?

I do not think there will be a good outcome here.

MOO

BBM I *REALLY* hope that a reporter asks where NG's cane is next time there is an opportunity. It seems to me that it's whereabouts would be an important detail, but it has never been asked about or mentioned so far that I can find or read. Odd to say the least. imo

 

[connie9030]

"Every single person here is going to ask you what you mean about collecting the elusive white van. This is not information we have at the moment. Please elaborate."

I was wondering the same thing. I read a story the other day about a neighbor seeing a suspicious white van in the neighborhood the night before. That's the only time I heard of a white van.

 

[MarciB]

SG was a moderator in a presidential debate and really got skewered after that from the GOP. I still remember it and did not pay that much attention. It was a big story I think in the lead up to the time Biden won. I don't think this it motivated by that but nothing off the table.

sorry, but GOP, especially Trump, always whines about the media and being treated badly during debates or interviews. There are so many reporters and news sites that could be targeted and Savannah would be the least of them as she avoids political topics
I doubt that is the motive.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

They have collected the white van??? Big news if true.

 

[TechGirl]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

Looking for a source about the white van. Fact based sourcing is a community rule. Thank you!

 

[raja]

Question for people with knowledge of car mechanics. If a car has not been driven for a long period of time is it possible it will not start easily?

 

[thefragile7393]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

THE Aphrodite Jones! WOW! Nice to have yo uhere.
The problem is the President says....many things. He has been known to be in error about a lot of situations and speaks "out of turn," IMO.

However as regards to everything else, your points are spot on. Thank you for all of this

 

[shonyakay]

They also know she was alive when she got back to her home because her phone synced up to her pacemaker until the two things were separated around 2 am.

But do we know that her phone was actually at her house at the time that these items were separated?

 

[waldojabba]

SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

UPDATE - I EDITED OUT the 7m to millions

"The note demanded millions of dollars in Bitcoin for Nancy Guthrie’s safe return and set two deadlines: 5 p.m. local time Thursday, and a second deadline for Monday, Feb. 9, TMZ reported."

What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

Both TMZ and KOLD representatives said wording in the messages suggests the sender has familiarity with the Tucson area.

www.newsnationnow.com

anecdotally - to me there are millions and then there are tens of millions- millions to me means 1-10 m/ tens of millions means more - just my own non financial brain at work lol
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It seems things are headed ion another direction so the ransom may just be a distraction not even related

But, let's assume there really are no suspects and all they have is this ransom note. If I were a position financially to pay the "millions" without affecting my kids education etc - I believe that - Yes I would pay it.

I dont know SG's financial situation but "millions" to me imo is like a house in the Hamptons. So if paying gives me peace of mind that I did everything possible - I'd do it.
JMO

 

[birdbox]

Unusual case, so more of my unusual thoughts dumped here: im looking inside the family dynamic here for this scenario. 1) How often was family game night or hang out? Was that a routine occurrence? Was it special occasion? I would look toward any details to suggest this was either 100% routine family pattern or something unusual. Why? If totally out of norm, could point to some sort of "stage setting" story line for a variety of reasons. 2) Let's say im a family member in the will. I cant wait 5-10 more years for you to die, I have urgent financial (Fargo) type needs now. I have already murdered you and I know you will be found at some later date after decomposition. That will line up with my story that you missed a deadline and I murdered her. Now, as the family member murderer, I never needed the bitcoin. I just need the life insurance and estate payday. The bitcoin address i gave i found online after researching unused but coin addresses and I never had any intention of collecting it. It was just part of a plot to throw everyone off and who cares if my rich sil put the amount in the bitcoin? Im getting an insurance and estate payday which could be a lot for an average American salaried worker. I imagine NG has a net worth of several million with her home and nest egg, life insurance amount could be upward of $1 million as well. To a desperate relative in a will could sound like a lot. Fargo mindset individual.

 

[thefragile7393]

Question for people with knowledge of car mechanics. If a car has not been driven for a long period of time is it possible it will not start easily?

depends on how long it's been sitting. Years? yes. Weeks? probably will start.

 

[Van Helsing]

Here are some things that were reported from the first ransom note:

The most striking element of the first ransom note was its inclusion of specific details about Nancy Guthrie’s Apple Watch and a floodlight at her home that authorities had not made public, law enforcement officials confirmed.

“In the first note, they mention an Apple Watch,” Levin told NewsNation. “It says where the Apple Watch was located, and it was not in a place that you would necessarily immediately think, and that seemed to pique the FBI’s interest.”

What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

Both TMZ and KOLD representatives said wording in the messages suggests the sender has familiarity with the Tucson area.

www.newsnationnow.com

The first report I heard about the ransom e-mail said it mentioned a flood light that did not work, so that's been out there from the beginning. They also speculated that may have been identified from photos on the internet. IMO, unless it was damaged at the time of the abduction, it wouldn't necessarily prove the legitimacy of the ransom e-mail. The apple watch might, unless others, like housekeepers or friends, knew that she always had it charging the same way every night.