AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #8,861
Yes, even behind a VPN you are only masking your host IP address. Any digital photos, videos,let could create new digital fingerprints. Unless these people were cyber pros like at a nation state level and knew how to scrub everything. Then we are talking about whole new level of cyberware in America. For example North Korea does a lot of cyberware against America in regards of crypto theft against Americans. Billions. Look it up. But I mean only a high level nation state actor could scrub all the bits and pieces and for example even when north korea does steal crypto from an American we still know they did it. And thats behind vpn and everything else. So, if these folks really do have a digital trail, it will take them down trust me.
But maybe not before the deadline on Monday🥺
 
  • #8,862
SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...
Thank you for your post. IMHO, Trump knows less about this investigation than we do. He inserts himself into everything. Where did you hear the white van was located? Will there be a press conference? TIA
 
  • #8,863
I find timelines to be very helpful (especially in a case like this where there are a lot of moving parts and lots of speculation) so I spent a while putting together a timeline (side note: I did not use AI to research or assemble this, just a bunch of my time and brainpower!). If I missed anything, please let me know!

All times are in MST unless otherwise indicated. Sources are listed in parenthesis – when possible, information is from LE, either Sheriff Nanos or FBI Special Agent in Charge Heith Janke.

January 31, 2026

5:32pm - NG takes an Uber to the family’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:48pm - NG is dropped off at home based on the garage door opening (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:50pm - Garage door closes (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 1, 2026

1:47am - Doorbell camera disconnects (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:12am - Software detects a person on a camera but no video is available. Unable to determine which camera detected the person. (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:28am - NG’s pacemaker app shows it was disconnected (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

11:56am - The family checks on NG and discovers her missing (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:03 - 911 is called (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:15pm - A patrol unit arrives at NG’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 2, 2026

6:42pm - Tucson news station KOLD receives a ransom demand via anonymous email with demands that needed to be completed “before 5PM on Thursday the 5th.” (KOLD)

February 3, 2026

Morning - TMZ receives a ransom note demanding “millions” in Bitcoin for NG’s release. (TMZ)

1:49pm - PCSO releases a statement on Facebook stating “we are aware of reports circulating about possible ransom note(s) regarding the investigation into Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO Facebook)

February 4, 2026

7:59am - PCSO states “at this point, investigators have not identified a suspect or person of interest in this case” and cautions that “the sharing of unverified accusations or false information is irresponsible (PCSO Facebook)

Just after 3pm - A black Suburban pulled up to AG’s home and about 4 or 5 people who appeared to be LE agents got out and went inside (KPNX live broadcast)

Around 3:20pm - Two of the people presumed to be LE exit AG’s home and retrieve supplies from the Suburban, including what appeared to be a tripod, and reenter the home (KPNX live broadcast)

Approx. 4-6pm - LE conducts a search at NG’s home because, according to Nanos, “the FBI wanted to take a look” (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser). The search lasts roughly 2 hours and dog was brought in during the search (Brian Entin; ABC12 reporter Ford Hatchett)

6:22pm - The Guthrie family releases a video statement. SG acknowledges the family is aware of the ransom demands and says “we need to know that she is alive and that you have her. We want to hear from you, and we are ready to listen. Please, reach out to us.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 5, 2026

Approx. 1:30pm - The FBI announces a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of NG or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance (Janke, Feb. 5 presser)

5pm (timezone not specified) - First deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

5:05pm - CG releases a video message on SG’s Instagram addressing NG’s abductor and says “we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 6, 2025

11:45am - KOLD receives a new message via email from NG’s alleged abductor. The note was sent the same way as the previous note (reporter Briana Whitney)

3:01pm - KOLD publicly announces the receipt of the note from NG’s alleged abductor. (reporter Mary Coleman)

3:05pm - PCSO releases a statement stating that “the FBI and Pima County Sheriff’s Department are aware of a new message regarding Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO)

3:35pm - Police close down a large section of NG’s street for “investigative purposes” (reporter Michael Ruiz; reporter Brian Entin)

Approx. 5:45pm - LE removes what appears to be a camera from the roof of the casita and NG’s house (reporter Michael Ruiz)

7:46pm - A tow truck arrives at NG’s house and removes a blue Subaru from the garage (reporter Brian Entin)

9:02pm - A forensics vehicle, a white Toyota Camry, and an unmarked white Chevy SUV arrive at AG’s house. People got out of the forensics vehicle and the Camry and walked around to the side of the house and left after about 5 minutes (reporter Brian Entin, reporter Michael Ruiz).

February 9, 2026

5pm (timezone not specified) - Second deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

Unable to place on timeline

KGUN also received a ransom demand, but the date it was received has not been released (KGUN9)

LE visited the Circle K on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.” (NBC News)
Thank you for this excellent summary with links! You’re awesome.
 
  • #8,864
T actually spoke to Savannah Wednesday and he gave her the fbi/doj resources etc - so in this case I suspect he knows quite a bit - .


"In a post on Truth Social late Wednesday, Trump said: "I spoke with Savannah Guthrie, and let her know that I am directing ALL Federal Law Enforcement to be at the family’s, and Local Law Enforcement’s, complete disposal, IMMEDIATELY."

"We are deploying all resources to get her mother home safely," the president added. "The prayers of our Nation are with her and her family. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT NANCY!"

jmo
Thanks, but he speaks too many untruths for me to believe him. IMHO
 
  • #8,865
the POTUS is not a reliable source of factual information on many things, IMO
I agree, just surprised, He is chiming in on details. Wonder what the FBI think, I’m sure they have told him what not to say!
Yes, he loves the attention and spotlight!
 
  • #8,866
I would never pay the ransom without proof of life. Esp. In a case this high-profile. We already found one scammer. And, without proof of life, I don’t have alot of confidence that an 84 year old who lost blood and hasn’t had her meds in a week is alive.
 
  • #8,867
  • #8,868
with that light ordinance I am guessing any lighting would be very very subtle and not a major flood light etc. It is very dark out there at night and probably a front door light might not be allowed. I would hate that.
Thank you. I was thinking the same. Anytime we go out knowing we’ll be home after dark, we always leave our front door lights on. Arizona is beautiful and the dark skies with all of the stars is breathtaking, but I don’t think I’d ever be able to live there because of the restrictions on outdoor lighting.
 
  • #8,869
I find timelines to be very helpful (especially in a case like this where there are a lot of moving parts and lots of speculation) so I spent a while putting together a timeline (side note: I did not use AI to research or assemble this, just a bunch of my time and brainpower!). If I missed anything, please let me know!

All times are in MST unless otherwise indicated. Sources are listed in parenthesis – when possible, information is from LE, either Sheriff Nanos or FBI Special Agent in Charge Heith Janke.

January 31, 2026

5:32pm - NG takes an Uber to the family’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:48pm - NG is dropped off at home based on the garage door opening (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:50pm - Garage door closes (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 1, 2026

1:47am - Doorbell camera disconnects (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:12am - Software detects a person on a camera but no video is available. Unable to determine which camera detected the person. (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:28am - NG’s pacemaker app shows it was disconnected (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

11:56am - The family checks on NG and discovers her missing (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:03 - 911 is called (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:15pm - A patrol unit arrives at NG’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 2, 2026

6:42pm - Tucson news station KOLD receives a ransom demand via anonymous email with demands that needed to be completed “before 5PM on Thursday the 5th.” (KOLD)

February 3, 2026

Morning - TMZ receives a ransom note demanding “millions” in Bitcoin for NG’s release. (TMZ)

1:49pm - PCSO releases a statement on Facebook stating “we are aware of reports circulating about possible ransom note(s) regarding the investigation into Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO Facebook)

February 4, 2026

7:59am - PCSO states “at this point, investigators have not identified a suspect or person of interest in this case” and cautions that “the sharing of unverified accusations or false information is irresponsible (PCSO Facebook)

Just after 3pm - A black Suburban pulled up to AG’s home and about 4 or 5 people who appeared to be LE agents got out and went inside (KPNX live broadcast)

Around 3:20pm - Two of the people presumed to be LE exit AG’s home and retrieve supplies from the Suburban, including what appeared to be a tripod, and reenter the home (KPNX live broadcast)

Approx. 4-6pm - LE conducts a search at NG’s home because, according to Nanos, “the FBI wanted to take a look” (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser). The search lasts roughly 2 hours and dog was brought in during the search (Brian Entin; ABC12 reporter Ford Hatchett)

6:22pm - The Guthrie family releases a video statement. SG acknowledges the family is aware of the ransom demands and says “we need to know that she is alive and that you have her. We want to hear from you, and we are ready to listen. Please, reach out to us.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 5, 2026

Approx. 1:30pm - The FBI announces a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of NG or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance (Janke, Feb. 5 presser)

5pm (timezone not specified) - First deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

5:05pm - CG releases a video message on SG’s Instagram addressing NG’s abductor and says “we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 6, 2025

11:45am - KOLD receives a new message via email from NG’s alleged abductor. The note was sent the same way as the previous note (reporter Briana Whitney)

3:01pm - KOLD publicly announces the receipt of the note from NG’s alleged abductor. (reporter Mary Coleman)

3:05pm - PCSO releases a statement stating that “the FBI and Pima County Sheriff’s Department are aware of a new message regarding Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO)

3:35pm - Police close down a large section of NG’s street for “investigative purposes” (reporter Michael Ruiz; reporter Brian Entin)

Approx. 5:45pm - LE removes what appears to be a camera from the roof of the casita and NG’s house (reporter Michael Ruiz)

7:46pm - A tow truck arrives at NG’s house and removes a blue Subaru from the garage (reporter Brian Entin)

9:02pm - A forensics vehicle, a white Toyota Camry, and an unmarked white Chevy SUV arrive at AG’s house. People got out of the forensics vehicle and the Camry and walked around to the side of the house and left after about 5 minutes (reporter Brian Entin, reporter Michael Ruiz).

February 9, 2026

5pm (timezone not specified) - Second deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

Unable to place on timeline

KGUN also received a ransom demand, but the date it was received has not been released (KGUN9)

LE visited the Circle K on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.” (NBC News)
This is nice work. Thanks!
 
  • #8,870
It's troubling that for such an urgent, allegedly kidnap-for-ransom scenario, this case is dragging on and seems always to become stagnant.

I guess I expected to wake up this morning to a big break and am baffled to see once again the same going in circles.

I hope there will be a break soon.
It does make me wonder if the FBI is interrogating family members right now, hoping to get specific information as to where she is. Of course they'd have to get a confession to get that location, and who wants to admit that while your whole family's around? If they arrest immediately, the perps will lawyer up and they will be no closer to finding Nancy (who is likely deceased at this point).
 
  • #8,871
T actually spoke to Savannah Wednesday and he gave her the fbi/doj resources etc - so in this case I suspect he knows quite a bit - .


"In a post on Truth Social late Wednesday, Trump said: "I spoke with Savannah Guthrie, and let her know that I am directing ALL Federal Law Enforcement to be at the family’s, and Local Law Enforcement’s, complete disposal, IMMEDIATELY."

"We are deploying all resources to get her mother home safely," the president added. "The prayers of our Nation are with her and her family. GOD BLESS AND PROTECT NANCY!"

jmo
again, he gives incorrect info frequently on many topics. He cannot be verified as an accurate source IMO.
 
  • #8,872
Tommaso drove Nancy home per New York Times interview with Sheriff Nanos

"After dinner and games, Mr. Cioni drove Ms. Guthrie home, and the garage door at her home opened at around 9:48 p.m., Sheriff Nanos said. That door closed at 9:50 p.m."
I just don't see NG walking into her home and getting inside in the matter of two minutes unless she was using a "hurry cane," and Tommaso dropped her off and peeled wheels out of there...

IOW, this just doesn't make common sense to me. Anyone--unless you hate your MIL--is respectful and helpful. You are going to stop the car, open the garage door, walk her in at her pace, open the other door leading to the home (which might require a key??), go inside with her, ask her if there is anything that you can do for her before you leave...All that requires more than two minutes.

JMO.
 
  • #8,873
I cannot think of any. The last time I recall a high-profile case thst even mentioned the word ransom was JonBennet. The last time I recall hearing of a kidnapper and a purported "white van" in the area was Laci Peterson. And we know how those turned out. Not many of these "weird" cases have happy endings.
Frank Sinatra Jr.......only one I know of.
 
  • #8,874
I find timelines to be very helpful (especially in a case like this where there are a lot of moving parts and lots of speculation) so I spent a while putting together a timeline (side note: I did not use AI to research or assemble this, just a bunch of my time and brainpower!). If I missed anything, please let me know!

All times are in MST unless otherwise indicated. Sources are listed in parenthesis – when possible, information is from LE, either Sheriff Nanos or FBI Special Agent in Charge Heith Janke.

January 31, 2026

5:32pm - NG takes an Uber to the family’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:48pm - NG is dropped off at home based on the garage door opening (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

9:50pm - Garage door closes (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 1, 2026

1:47am - Doorbell camera disconnects (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:12am - Software detects a person on a camera but no video is available. Unable to determine which camera detected the person. (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

2:28am - NG’s pacemaker app shows it was disconnected (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

11:56am - The family checks on NG and discovers her missing (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:03 - 911 is called (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

12:15pm - A patrol unit arrives at NG’s home (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser)

February 2, 2026

6:42pm - Tucson news station KOLD receives a ransom demand via anonymous email with demands that needed to be completed “before 5PM on Thursday the 5th.” (KOLD)

February 3, 2026

Morning - TMZ receives a ransom note demanding “millions” in Bitcoin for NG’s release. (TMZ)

1:49pm - PCSO releases a statement on Facebook stating “we are aware of reports circulating about possible ransom note(s) regarding the investigation into Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO Facebook)

February 4, 2026

7:59am - PCSO states “at this point, investigators have not identified a suspect or person of interest in this case” and cautions that “the sharing of unverified accusations or false information is irresponsible (PCSO Facebook)

Just after 3pm - A black Suburban pulled up to AG’s home and about 4 or 5 people who appeared to be LE agents got out and went inside (KPNX live broadcast)

Around 3:20pm - Two of the people presumed to be LE exit AG’s home and retrieve supplies from the Suburban, including what appeared to be a tripod, and reenter the home (KPNX live broadcast)

Approx. 4-6pm - LE conducts a search at NG’s home because, according to Nanos, “the FBI wanted to take a look” (Nanos, Feb. 5 presser). The search lasts roughly 2 hours and dog was brought in during the search (Brian Entin; ABC12 reporter Ford Hatchett)

6:22pm - The Guthrie family releases a video statement. SG acknowledges the family is aware of the ransom demands and says “we need to know that she is alive and that you have her. We want to hear from you, and we are ready to listen. Please, reach out to us.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 5, 2026

Approx. 1:30pm - The FBI announces a $50,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of NG or the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance (Janke, Feb. 5 presser)

5pm (timezone not specified) - First deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

5:05pm - CG releases a video message on SG’s Instagram addressing NG’s abductor and says “we need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward.” (SG’s Instagram)

February 6, 2025

11:45am - KOLD receives a new message via email from NG’s alleged abductor. The note was sent the same way as the previous note (reporter Briana Whitney)

3:01pm - KOLD publicly announces the receipt of the note from NG’s alleged abductor. (reporter Mary Coleman)

3:05pm - PCSO releases a statement stating that “the FBI and Pima County Sheriff’s Department are aware of a new message regarding Nancy Guthrie.” (PCSO)

3:35pm - Police close down a large section of NG’s street for “investigative purposes” (reporter Michael Ruiz; reporter Brian Entin)

Approx. 5:45pm - LE removes what appears to be a camera from the roof of the casita and NG’s house (reporter Michael Ruiz)

7:46pm - A tow truck arrives at NG’s house and removes a blue Subaru from the garage (reporter Brian Entin)

9:02pm - A forensics vehicle, a white Toyota Camry, and an unmarked white Chevy SUV arrive at AG’s house. People got out of the forensics vehicle and the Camry and walked around to the side of the house and left after about 5 minutes (reporter Brian Entin, reporter Michael Ruiz).

February 9, 2026

5pm (timezone not specified) - Second deadline in the ransom demand (KOLD)

Unable to place on timeline

KGUN also received a ransom demand, but the date it was received has not been released (KGUN9)

LE visited the Circle K on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.” (NBC News)
Thank you, this is very helpful.
 
  • #8,875
Regardless of one's thoughts on him or this particular action, he did facilitate the cherry picking of the president of a 1st world Western nation out of his own palace in the middle of the night, and in just an hour or two, so I'd prefer to think that any perceived grandstanding by him can generally be backed up, and that any resources he has authorized in this case will be similarly utilized and ultimately prove fruitful.

JMO.
He also knew with 100% certainty who he was going after. That is not the case here. Anyway, I’m moving on and ignoring him as usual. Of course he would take credit if NG is found safe. IMHO
 
  • #8,876
It does make me wonder if the FBI is interrogating family members right now, hoping to get specific information as to where she is. Of course they'd have to get a confession to get that location, and who wants to admit that while your whole family's around? If they arrest immediately, the perps will lawyer up and they will be no closer to finding Nancy (who is likely deceased at this point).
Great point.
 
  • #8,877
with that light ordinance I am guessing any lighting would be very very subtle and not a major flood light etc. It is very dark out there at night and probably a front door light might not be allowed. I would hate that.
We have that ordinance too. Lights can be used if you are outside, and all lights are down lights, no up lights, spotlights. .
 
  • #8,878
As a true crime writer, not a case insider. It's different. And until we get clarification, I'm waiting on sources to support anything she's said, like any regular poster.

MOO
This case has so many twists and turns —and I just have to say that I found the repost and the question a little weird (sorry AJ). Why check back later? Could this be a veiled communication. For someone? Prob reading more onto the post —and repost (which is what caught my eye) but why ask that question twice and then come back later? What are you waiting to see?
 
  • #8,880
As a true crime writer, not a case insider. It's different. And until we get clarification, I'm waiting on sources to support anything she's said, like any regular poster.

MOO
Thanks for clarifying the difference. That is what I was trying to find out. I'll wait for sources and hold off on assuming accuracy of the info at this point.
 

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