Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shadowsc]

One other interesting thing is that the Sheriff stated that there wouldn't be any more press conferences until next Thursday.

Is this new, or is from earlier in the week when the Sheriff said he wouldn't be speaking again until this (past) Thursday?

Is this normal in ransom cases? Is anything normal in this case? Ah! I need the history of ransoms. This one just. Feels Off

No, definitely not normal. All the former FBI guys making rounds on media are saying kidnappers who ask for ransom go through backchannels to reach the family, and they have never seen a case like this or using major media.

I actually don't take this video to mean that whoever this is told the family that Nancy is deceased. Like.... the first "deadline" was only that the demand or price would increase. The second deadline for Monday was the one of serious consequence. Why if the kidnapper wants his money is he going to suddenly be honest and a good citizen and be all, "well actually she's deceased but if you pay me, I'll return her." They could just stay ambiguous, you know the family was already going to pay with or without proof.

I don't think the "celebrate" necessarily means a "celebration of life service." It could have just been something like the ransom note writer said, "Your mother wants to celebrate that you agreed to do x" or whatever.

I have no idea. I don't think it's the sister's husband. The siblings are all holding hands and look united.

Any idea what's on the brother's hat? He has worn that hat in all the videos.

 

[dogmom805]

Here is what is mind-boggling. How the heck does a perpetrator have 100% confidence that there aren't internal cameras? Its a fairly large home for an 84 year old lady. A lot of folks i know monitor their older parents, grandparents with an inside camera (sure creepy) in their living room, etc. It would be again, out of character of some mastermind "outsider" to boldly adopt a position that there is no ring subscription, no internal camera, no silent motion sensors that call cops. That is a hell of a lot of assumptions baked in that cake.

It was interesting they told the public they have no video. Zero. That lets the perp think he got away with it, so maybe they let down their guard. Perhaps, they actually do have video and don't want to tip off.

 

[Magic8Ball]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020280366595281225

At this point, even if we're looking at two separate crimes and this evil creep turns out to be a hacker/hoaxer exploiting a tragic situation for personal gain but not the evil creep guilty of disappearing NG, he should receive just as severe a punishment as if he were.

NGs family has been put through sheer torture in the wake of NG's disappearance with these ransom demands.

The implication of SG's video appears to be that the person who contacted them has insinuated NG is dead.
If this ransom demand stuff proves to be a hoax, doing this to a victim's family is next-level sociopathy.

If it's not a hoax, it's every bit as evil.

This most recent contact may help the FBI to track/trace/apprehend this monster.
A sliver of a silver lining. But something, at least.

JMO.

 

[BreakingNews]

Dbm

 

[RatFace]

Ans the fact that SG said "this is valuable and we will pay" suggests she died. Getting her back alive is obviously valuable but not after death.

 

[Rush4087]

One other interesting thing is that the Sheriff stated that there wouldn't be any more press conferences until next Thursday.

Could you please provide a link for this?

I may have missed it, but the only comment I've heard from the Sheriff about there "not being any more press conferences until Thursday" was made by him this past Tuesday - and the Thursday he was referencing was Thursday, Feb 5 - two days ago

Tia

Jmo

 

[Jge24]

I agree it appears she’s no longer with us but what gets me is why do they say “celebrate WITH her” to me that indicates someone who is still alive. Again, I think they’re responding in some way to something the captor wrote in a message. But the word ‘with’ to me is really not indicating she’s deceased as of this moment. We can try and spin it in any way, but usually you’re not celebrating WITH a dead person, you’re celebrating the dead person.

 

[SlimPickens]

Yes, shifting!! This is hypothetical and crazy BUT...What if the ransom scheme is a secret diversional ploy by LE to flush out the real perp? Like maybe LE thinks it IS a fam member who has done this for financial gain/insurance, etc. and this phony ransom scheme was thrown in to flush them out. Maybe they're (the perp) getting a little twitchy worrying if the sibs use any of NG's money/assets toward paying a fake ransom scheme then there won't be any money left to really collect from her estate after they find her deceased?

Sounds outlandish ofc and this would be door #5 in reality lol but this entire situation is just so anything is possible at this point! Praying NG is still alive and in a hotel/motel room somewhere and they give up her location when they receive the bitcoin!

A diversion or decoy or ruse would seriously compromise prosecuting a case.

JMO.

 

[watson1]

My heart breaks for all of NG's grandchildren, who likely will never feel safe in their own homes ever again, given what happened to their beloved grandmother. Pray for them.

 

[turaj]

Yeah, definitely sounds like a plea for a body. "Celebrate" as in "celebrate her life", "only way we will have peace".

sounds that way to me and chances are unless they can negotiate this they may never know where she. is buried.

 

[shadowsc]

Is there a reason this is all playing out over Instagram? And not privately?

I think because the family has no way to correspond with whoever is sending these? So they are appealing publicly? But....still very odd. I guess it's better if they come from SG's personal instagram versus random media? I don't think it would be right if LE was the one releasing the videos from the family since they need to appear very hands off in terms of appeasing ransom demands....

 

[mikeshanty]

I'm shocked anyone thinks they can stand in judgment of any of those 3. Annie looked on the verge of hysterics. In Cameron's video he was seemingly so shaken he couldn't even get a full sentence out without checking his notes. JMO

I am really glad you said this because this family looks utterly broken. And I have said it before, but there are very sadly going to be life-long consequences for this family after this ordeal - namely witness protection or a life in hiding. I do not see any possibility of SG returning to a public facing life after this. Incredibly sad all round.

 

[turaj]

Agree!! But, i do not think they would pay for a dead body.

i disagree and think they would and that is what they were saying.

 

[TheDinks]

At this point, even if we're looking at two separate crimes and this evil creep turns out to be a hacker/hoaxer exploiting a tragic situation for personal gain but not the evil creep guilty of disappearing NG, he should receive just as severe a punishment as if he were.

NGs family has been put through sheer torture in the wake of NG's disappearance with these ransom demands.

The implication of SG's video appears to be that the person who contacted them has insinuated that she's dead.
If this ransom demand stuff proves to be a hoax, doing this to a victim's family is next-level sociopathy.

If it's not a hoax, it's every bit as evil.

This most recent contact may help the FBI to track/trace/apprehend this monster.
A sliver of a silver lining. But something, at least.

JMO.

I still have the belief that the kidnap for ransom is possibly not the real deal here and you're right, whomever is doing it, if caught, should receive severe punishment.

 

[Sessiebo]

Yes, funerals are often called celebrations of life

Yeah i know for example in the carribbean they party carrying a coffin and that's what the word celebration means to me, some kind of party.
However, over here a funeral is not a type of "party" but a very sad and emotional occasion so that's why i cannot relate the word celebration with a funeral that well.
Thank you for clarifying

 

[wibbleflea]

Bitcoin transferred to a bank account in North America or Western Europe through an exchange is traceable. If the family is really going to pay, that cryptocurrency has to go to a country outside those regions. The sums that have been talked about by people who’ve seen the ransom note are too large to turn into regular fiat currency in the US without being tracked and traced. And we (outside the family and LE) don’t even know that the ransom is linked to the abduction. Presumably, the family is reasonably certain, unless they’re playing along.

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[MassGuy]

I put the transcript of the latest SG video in to ChatGPT to get an analysis of it from the viewpoint of an investigator and here is what it said, very interesting:

"Every line feels carefully chosen.

The opening — “We received your message, and we understand” — stands out immediately. Saying “we understand” goes beyond acknowledging contact. It suggests they’re not judging, not challenging, not escalating. It’s a de-escalation move. In hostage or ransom situations, that kind of language is often used to keep the other person calm and engaged, not defensive.

The next part — “We beg you now to return our mother to us so we can celebrate with her” — is interesting for what it avoids. They don’t use words like “victim,” “crime,” or “wrong.” They don’t say “alive” or “safe,” which could backfire if the situation is worse than hoped. Instead, they frame it around family and a positive future moment. It subtly assumes she’s alive without forcing the issue.

“This is the only way we will have peace” is also notable. It doesn’t threaten consequences or mention law enforcement. It frames compliance as emotional closure rather than risk, which may lower the perpetrator’s fear of what happens next.

Finally, “This is very valuable to us and we will pay.” That sentence is doing a lot of work. It clearly signals compliance without turning their mother into a price tag or negotiating publicly. No timelines, no demands — just reassurance.

What really stands out overall is what isn’t there: no anger, no moralizing, no pressure, no ultimatums. That restraint feels intentional. The message reads less like a raw emotional plea and more like something designed to stabilize a volatile situation and keep the person on the other end from panicking or escalating.

Whether or not law enforcement helped shape it, this doesn’t feel spontaneous. It feels strategic — focused on keeping communication open and the situation from getting worse."

Basically, "we want her back no matter what (dead or alive).

I initially believed the kidnappers had told them in their communication yesterday that Nancy was dead, but this makes more sense.

The family is allowing for that possibility (dead), but saying "give her back, either way."

 

[ChicagoSleuth]

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Any idea what's on the brother's hat? He has worn that hat in all the videos.

It's a Saguaro National Park logo. It was easier to read during his solo video IMO. Source: Camron Guthrie posts new video asking for mother's return: "We need you to reach out"

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[Cassie P]

I know what it said to me

Probably the same thing it said to me.

 

[shonyakay]

I feel like that can go either way. Just because they've responded publicly to the ransom demand does not automatically make it legit. It may be the case they feel it is legit, but the response alone does not indicate whether or not it's legit. For arguments sake, lets say its two separate offenders - the family could absolutely believe that paying the ransom will bring their mom home, only to find there was no kidnapping and no amount of ransom money would have ever brought their mother home because there was foul play committed by a different offender. Just my 2 pennies worth

Also the FBI has stated that they have left it up to the family to decide whether they want to speak out on the ransom notes. I still have yet to see them confirmed as legit.

My biggest hope would be that they are legit and Nancy is still alive.

Anyine think its possible they were informed shes deceased and they want her body returned and are willing to pay to get body back. This video seemed more somber. Anyone??? Celebrate= celebration of life service as many religious people call a funeral

Celebrate "with her"?