AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[connie9030]

People using their own 80-90 year old parents as exact proxys for NG is the new dog barking theory, please make it stop!

Exactly right. We are going by information given to us by NG's family. NG apparently is no longer able to drive (has a car but took UBER for 10 minute trip), uses a cane and has a pacemaker and SG stated she was frail.

 

[Curiousraccoon]

I’m glad people are speaking of the capability of their elderly relatives. It is a good counter to all the infantalising and insulting people are doing of Nancy - saying she could barely walk, saying people “made her” get an Uber, etc as if she could do nothing and decide nothing for herself.

I agree with this statement but also wouldn't mind if both sides just stopped this discussion already, because it's not relevant.

 

[Inthedetails]

Such sadness.

 

[mikeshanty]

I just read that one of the reasons they went to AG's house at night was to spray luminol - yikes.

 

[academyrd]

NOT the BIL. jmo

Ok. Explain why the FBI was at Annie’s house last night taking pictures and seizing evidence?

 

[MadCowWisco]

The sherrif's decision to go to a basketball game is really disrespectful.
I get that the man also has a personal life but this is just not done imo

Or maybe they just needed him to get away from this for a few hours?

 

[Napoli]

Yes of course. The family of the kidnapped victim has power.
They have the ultimate power, the money.

Kidnapping is essentially a business crime. The kidnapper steals a person, and wants the family to buy that person back. The point of the kidnapping is to make money. So we have a buyer and a seller.

Yes the kidnapper may have issues around control, power, narcissism, sadism etc. And appear to have all the control especially initially. But the family and law enforcement have leverage.

The kidnapper wants the money and wants to avoid arrest. The longer the negotiations go on it is less likely the kidnapper will receive his money and the more likely he will be apprehended.
So he is under pressure too.

ETA: The power dynamics may shift back and forth.

I disagree. The ultimate power is LIFE. The mom is not a trinket in a flea market to be bartered over. The family asked for proof of life..crickets. Mom is still missing. Who has the power? Even if the money was proffered, she might never be released. Power is with the kidnappers. They will be no poorer at the end of this. The family will have the loss. It's the ultimate gamble...

 

[Napoli]

Ok. Explain why the FBI was at Annie’s house last night taking pictures and seizing evidence?

Taking pictures and DNA to see if the MOM's DNA was in the house. They might have taken DNA from the family vehicle to prove the mom had recently been in the car. This was more of a "rule out than rule in" JMO

 

[osu]

Good poll!

There could also be an option of two crimes and two suspects - one for disappearance (=likely murder) and one for ransom notes, but I think covers that alright

Agree and also those two suspects could theoretically be working together.

 

[mikeshanty]

Ok. Explain why the FBI was at Annie’s house last night taking pictures and seizing evidence?

But at the same time, even if it was the SIL and AG and they went along with the "kidnapping" story after the sheriff announced it, how have they been getting away with sending ransom notes from the dark web while (most likely) having no free time whatsoever right now to do so? They will likely be in non-stop meetings and interviews with LE and FBI profilers, and likely know they are being surveilled closely? If LE / FBI are letting a hoax ransom letter run wild while knowing it is SIL and AB, that seems highly unethical and a form of torture for SG and her brother.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

dbm

 

[thefragile7393]

At this point is anyone not convinced it’s the BIL? The only lingering question to me is how much Annie actually knew or was involved.

I’m not convinced of anyone unless there’s evidence

 

[wibbleflea]

I mean, it all depends on if this person couldn't possibly have known those things. Like my opinion completely changes if this person knew something they couldn't possibly know.

In this NewsNation interview with Levin (of TMZ) speaking with Chris Cuomo, Levin says the ransom note provided the location of NG’s Apple Watch and “it was not in a place you would necessarily immediately think.” He says that that seemed to pique the interest of the FBI.

Levin says that the note also mentioned that the floodlights over the rear of the property were destroyed – not just damaged but destroyed. That matches what we’ve seen in videos. (On the other hand: news reporters have said that before a security guard was placed in front of the home, people were walking into the area. And if there was early drone footage, that may have covered the back yard.)

Whether the watch was really in the exact location given in the note hasn’t been made public, as far as I know. And it’s possible, I think, that the information may have leaked.

If NG is alive or was alive after the abduction, it would have been possible for the people holding her to provide information that only she and family would have known. We haven’t had any evidence of that, as far as I can tell.

 

[Inthedetails]

I disagree. The ultimate power is LIFE. The mom is not a trinket in a flea market to be bartered over. The family asked for proof of life..crickets. Mom is still missing. Who has the power? Even if the money was proffered, she might never be released. Power is with the kidnappers. They will be no poorer at the end of this. The family will have the loss. It's the ultimate gamble...

It is a gamble and also might trigger other nefarious people to kidnap for money. It's so rare in our country but perhaps others will attempt it. The family not only has the burden of deciding what to do for themselves but for the nation, really.

HORRIBLE SITUATION and I have shared heartbreak for them.

jmo

 

[thefragile7393]

I just read that one of the reasons they went to AG's house at night was to spray luminol - yikes.

Where was this read?

 

[Cassie P]

I disagree. The ultimate power is LIFE. The mom is not a trinket in a flea market to be bartered over. The family asked for proof of life..crickets. Mom is still missing. Who has the power? Even if the money was proffered, she might never be released. Power is with the kidnappers. They will be no poorer at the end of this. The family will have the loss. It's the ultimate gamble...

You are talking more about the point of view of the family? I am talking about the point of view of the kidnapper. They see the victim as something for sale.

The kidnapper can certainly be poorer at the end of this. He gets zero money and spends the rest of his life in prison.

It is a complex power struggle.

 

[Jade]

Transferred in a very obvious aspiration/spray pattern?? That would be pretty difficult to do imo

Pipette?

The uber is verified. Car damage could have happened anytime. Likely unrelated, but who knows. Possible blood was staged. TC is biology teacher. Pipettes.

Imo

 

[EightiesBoo]

Have we seen dogs?
I believe that if they thought there was signs of a deceased body they would have dogs out sniffing, right? Or dogs in that garage where pictures were being taken to sniff out decay? Sorry for being morbid.
JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

Ok. Explain why the FBI was at Annie’s house last night taking pictures and seizing evidence?

Because that was the last place NG spent a significant amount of time the evening before she went missing?

 

[zecats]

People using their own 80-90 year old parents as exact proxys for NG is the new dog barking theory, please make it stop!

Sorry to offend you. My response was in response to a post about Nancy being out too late for her age and past her bedtime. Geeze.