AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[ApartoftheNarrative]

Okay I am about 60 pages behind now. Is there anything major I need to know to get caught up without reading everything at once? Or like a new timeline of information? Thanks!

 

[TSH92]

If this is a homicide that occurred in the oldest daughter's home then how the whole timeline played out is probably way different then how I'd magined it from the get.

Agree, if so, then going over to NG's house around 10pm could have been to stage the scene. But then I wonder where their young son was at the time.

 

[Sarahlou]

Where was this read?

People were speculating they were taking photos after using luminol, but it wasn't confirmed.

 

[lisasimpson2010]

People using their own 80-90 year old parents as exact proxys for NG is the new dog barking theory, please make it stop!

I agree with you but I'm slightly perturbed that you made this post in response to someone pointing out that all older people are different and that some older people are mobile and independent, when the majority of comments using their own experience as proxies are coming from the "anyone who leaves an older person alone is dodgy" crowd, who are not only infantalising a woman on no grounds at all, but badmouthing the non-suspect relatives of a missing and potentially murdered woman who are no doubt going through hell.



There's absolutely nothing weird or odd about only taking three minutes to say goodbye and walk someone into their house at night, rather than coming inside with them and spending time "getting them settled" whatever that means. People only think it's weird because they're looking at it in the context of an elderly kidnapped woman. In real life it's a completely normal thing no one would even blink twice at. Most people are tired after hours of socialising outside of their own home and just want to be alone in their own space, older people get more easily tired. I don't know a single elderly person who would want someone coming inside their house to spend ages fussing over them at the end of a long, tiring day, rather than simply doing a completely normal standard goodbye.

Bottom line, they know their mother, and we do not. They know if she's the kind of person who wants people to come inside her house and spend time getting her settled when they drop her off at night, or the kind of person who is happy to do a normal regular goodbye.

 

[Nikynoo]

At this point is anyone not convinced it’s the BIL? The only lingering question to me is how much Annie actually knew or was involved.

Why are you convinced it is?

 

[Elisaa444]

I don't buy the money theories re SIL - it seems from videos online etc, that AG and SG have a good relationship. Surely if there was a need for money, they could ask SG rather than NG?? Doesn't make sense to me. Ok, teaching salaries may not be high end but far from poverty line.

IMO, you can't tell how someone's relationship is based on a photo and/or a video online. Just ask me and my sister.

Also, asking siblings or any family for money can lead to all sorts of issues. Money can quickly divide people. (*of course, not all people.) Just because someone may have a lot of money doesn't mean they feel like they need to share it especially when they have a spouse and their own family. I've seen and experienced first hand how money can destroy relationships.

This may have nothing to do with money, but I'll be extremely surprised if it doesn't in some way.

Moo.

 

[mikeshanty]

Where was this read?

Sorry, it was on another thread, I saw someone say that taking flash photos at night most likely points towards luminol testing.

 

[connie9030]

I just saw the latest family video statement. It has a different tone and SG sounds resigned. Does anyone else think this statement is odd "We received your message and we understand. We beg you now to return our mother to us so we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace...We will pay..." IMO This means a celebration of life and they are willing to pay for the return of her body to find peace. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Sessiebo]

Agree, if so, then going over to NG's house around 10pm could have been to stage the scene. But then I wonder where their young son was at the time.

The kid could have been at a sleep over with a friend's house? Idk just speculating. I just hope the kid didn't see anything and also is being sheltered from all the speculation. So sad to think about everything the family has to go through

 

[Nikynoo]

Agree, if so, then going over to NG's house around 10pm could have been to stage the scene. But then I wonder where their young son was at the time.

I believe that he is old enough to be left alone. Some may disagree.

 

[Starkville]

Im sorry then, the last I read last night it was locked. Thanks for clearing that up!
Although Ive found this just now, where did you find the information please?
There is no information available regarding whether Nancy Guthrie's front door was locked. The investigation into her disappearance has revealed that blood was found on the front steps, but no specific details about the door's status are provided in the available reports.

Just a warning that AI isn’t entirely accurate. It was giving me funky results on the Guthrie case, so I had to go do the research myself.

True story: I was asking ChatGPT about the date of death for Rob and Michelle Reiner - on January 9th - and it told me that they were very much alive! I have screenshots. Despite the deluge of news stories about their untimely murders, AI was telling me they were alive.

 

[mikeshanty]

I just wanted to add another angle since I am still on the fence about the SIL.

It is possible LE / FBI are running with the ransom / kidnapping and Instagram videos to apply pressure to someone close to NG. They can have suspects but without evidence, a charge will be weak. There is a very famous case in my country where it is widely known LE and the local community know exactly who killed a woman who has been missing for nearly 16 years. However, the perpetrator is part of a close knit group of friends who simply will not speak. LE know they were involved, but they do not have enough evidence until one of the group speaks (e.g. due to passage of time or alliances changing).

 

[Nikynoo]

I just wanted to add another angle since I am still on the fence about the SIL.

It is possible LE / FBI are running with the ransom / kidnapping and Instagram videos to apply pressure to someone close to NG. They can have suspects but without evidence, a charge will be weak. There is a very famous case in my country where it is widely known LE and the local community know exactly who killed a woman who has been missing for nearly 16 years. However, the perpetrator is part of a close knit group of friends who simply will not speak. LE know they were involved, but they do not have enough evidence until one of the group speaks (e.g. due to passage of time or alliances changing).

Ah, CL?

 

[Jge24]

I agree with you but I'm slightly perturbed that you made this post in response to someone pointing out that all older people are different and that some older people are mobile and independent, when the majority of comments using their own experience as proxies are coming from the "anyone who leaves an older person alone is dodgy" crowd, who are not only infantalising a woman on no grounds at all, but badmouthing the non-suspect relatives of a missing and potentially murdered woman who are no doubt going through hell.



There's absolutely nothing weird or odd about only taking three minutes to say goodbye and walk someone into their house at night, rather than coming inside with them and spending time "getting them settled" whatever that means. People only think it's weird because they're looking at it in the context of an elderly kidnapped woman. In real life it's a completely normal thing no one would even blink twice at. Most people are tired after hours of socialising outside of their own home and just want to be alone in their own space, older people get more easily tired. I don't know a single elderly person who would want someone coming inside their house to spend ages fussing over them at the end of a long, tiring day, rather than simply doing a completely normal standard goodbye.

Bottom line, they know their mother, and we do not. They know if she's the kind of person who wants people to come inside her house and spend time getting her settled when they drop her off at night, or the kind of person who is happy to do a normal regular goodbye.

I also imagine it was a regular thing to have her over for dinner since they lived so close to one another. I’m sure they had developed a routine of them pulling up and her going in through the door because it was a common occurrence. I truly don’t see anything odd about this.

 

[mikeshanty]

Ah, CL?

Yes indeed...

 

[dotr]

Okay I am about 60 pages behind now. Is there anything major I need to know to get caught up without reading everything at once? Or like a new timeline of information? Thanks!

Feb 8, 2026

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-missing-02-07-26

From CNN's Danya Gainor
''As the search for the 84-year-old mother of “Today” host Savannah Guthrie is in its seventh day, here are the events that unfolded over the week:
Saturday, January 31

• Guthrie takes an Uber to her daughter Annie’s home at around 5:32 p.m.
• Family members take her back home, with Guthrie’s garage door opening at approximately 9:48 p.m. and closing at 9:50 p.m.

Sunday, February 1

• At 1:47a.m., a few hours after Guthrie is believed to have returned home, her doorbell camera is disconnected.
• At 2:12a.m., surveillance camera software detects movement.
• Guthrie’s pacemaker app data shows it disconnected from her phone at 2:28a.m.
• Relatives check on Guthrie at 11:56 a.m. after finding out she was uncharacteristically absent from church. They discover that she wasn’t home.
• Relatives call 911 at 12:03 p.m. to report her missing.
• Pima County Sheriff’s Office patrols arrive at her home by 12:15 p.m.

Tuesday, February 3

• Several media outlets, including TMZ and CNN affiliate KOLD-TV, receive purported ransom letters demanding millions of dollars in bitcoin for Guthrie’s return. One note includes a first deadline of 5:00p.m. Thursday and a second deadline for next Monday.

Wednesday, February 4

• The Guthrie siblings post a video on Instagram with Savannah Guthrie saying they “need to know without a doubt that she’s alive and that you have her.” She emphasizes that her mother is in “constant pain” and needs her medication to survive.

Thursday, February 5

• The first deadline mentioned in the purported ransom note passes at 5:00p.m.
• Savannah Guthrie’s brother Camron issues another plea on social media at 5:00 p.m. local time, the first deadline given in the ransom note. “We need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward,” he says in the video.

Friday, February 6

• KOLD receives a second note about Guthrie’s disappearance. Anchor Mary Coleman says the latest message included sensitive information and no deadline, unlike the first letter.
• Investigators resume searches at Guthrie’s home and in the surrounding area. A car which appeared to be Guthrie’s is towed away.

Saturday, February 7

• Guthrie’s children plead for their mother’s return in a video posted on social media. In the clip, Savannah Guthrie says: “We will pay.”

 

[K9Enzo]

LE retuning to AG’s home last night is not routine - “nothing to see here”. It tells me a there was a warrant supported by new evidence and maybe broader search authority was granted. Judges usually set limits on what LE can search. IMO

Unless of course this is all owner consent to search… again. IMO

ETA: perhaps attorneys part of the discussion can set me straight on this.

 

[mikeshanty]

I think also it is a known police tactic to see whether close family members cooperate with public appeals (e.g. press conferences) and monitor their behaviour.

 

[Inthedetails]

LE retuning to AG’s home last night is not routine - “nothing to see here”. It tells me a there was a warrant supported by new evidence and maybe broader search authority was granted. Judges usually set limits on what LE can search. IMO

Unless of course this is all owner consent to search… again. IMO

ETA: perhaps attorneys part of the discussion can set me straight on this.

I don't think it's routine either.

fwiw.

jmo

 

[unresolvedmystery]

I think also it is a known police tactic to see whether close family members cooperate with public appeals (e.g. press conferences) and monitor their behaviour.

Thats what I've been thinking, getting AG to commit to a narrative before they return with evidence disproving it