AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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No restaurant , I answered Goosy pie above. Nancy was taken by uber to Annie's and Tommaso's house for dinner and game play, as far as we know.
Thank you, I was wrong.
 
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Thats what I've been thinking, getting AG to commit to a narrative before they return with evidence disproving it
Ohh yes absolutely, I had not even considered that. I am not sure how entrapment laws work in that state, however. In my country, entrapment is not really possible and I think some course of actions by LE (if there is a strategy to catch AG out) could feasibly be considered entrapment in layman's terms.
 
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going to attempt to do a poll! though it’s not really the same of course

react to this post with an
😍 if you suspect someone close to NG
😡 if you suspect someone who knew NG as an acquaintance
🙁 if you suspect a stranger
😮 if you really don’t know what to think
anymore!

(randomly choosen emojis, and of course not trying to make light of this awful situation at all. just to get an idea of what people think)

edit: to clarify, the question here is who is responsible for nancy’s disappearance
I suspect a stranger lying in wait at her home or hiding in casita and coming into her house after she came home and settled into bed. Did she go to her daughter's for dinner weekly? Someone may have observed her habits-- or passed on info to an outsider who planned ahead.
Is there a safe in the home?
 
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Son in law
Was tying to quote someone who was wondering if SIL meant sister in law. I put son in law but quoted something else. Oops.
 
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🙏Praying for you Nancy, wherever you are and hoping that the full force of the law is brought down on whoever had a part in this. Whoever he/she/they might be.
Makes me so angry. She is/was fragile. Bless her heart.
 
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I have a feeling that SG knows that AG is involved with this and is going along with this ransom charade. SG seems very angry and distant towards AG, meanwhile AG is looking terrified and hyperventilating.
 
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I believe that he is old enough to be left alone. Some may disagree.
Agree. From the 2025 Christmas family photo he looks to be approx 13 years old.
 
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LE retuning to AG’s home last night is not routine - “nothing to see here”. It tells me a there was a warrant supported by new evidence and maybe broader search authority was granted. Judges usually set limits on what LE can search. IMO

Unless of course this is all owner consent to search… again. IMO

ETA: perhaps attorneys part of the discussion can set me straight on this.
I am not a lawyer, but I know that law enforcement will usually seek a warrant if time permits even when they have permission to search. This helps to legally validate any evidence obtained.
 
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I have a feeling that SG knows that AG is involved with this and is going along with this ransom charade. SG seems very angry and distant towards AG, meanwhile AG is looking terrified and hyperventilating.
What a heavy, heavy burden. Unimaginable.
 
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i'm thinking arrest in the nex 24-48
 
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Harvey Levin did an interview with Mark Geragos an A Lister defense attorney. He knows how these guys think. He said family just needs to pay the ransom and hope for the best...without proof of life. I tend to agree. Otherwise nothing may happen at all...NG is killed and the kidnappers may never be found. She might be dead but I don't think they have much choice.

Ohh yes absolutely, I had not even considered that. I am not sure how entrapment laws work in that state, however. In my country, entrapment is not really possible and I think some course of actions by LE (if there is a strategy to catch AG out) could feasibly be considered entrapment in layman's terms.
LE can outright lie about a narrative, and it's not entrapment. Entrapment would be to lure someone to commit a crime.
 
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What a heavy, heavy burden. Unimaginable.
Yes quite. I can't even imagine the logistics behind this. LE may have told SG privately what is really going on and asked her to cooperate with a public appeal? Putting SG in a very distressing situation to sit there with AG? Or perhaps they have only told her the SIL is a suspect and that SG cannot discuss it with AG? I studied the Instagram videos closely and I cannot see any resistance from SG; she is holding AG's hands in both videos, although there is less active holding on in the latest video.
 
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Or maybe someone gave him a ticket as a present.
Look, he can do anything he wants but I agree it’s a bad look. Based only on observing the sheriff through this case he seems to me to be someone who a) likes attention and b) doesn’t always use the best judgement.
 
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Agree. From the 2025 Christmas family photo he looks to be approx 13 years old.

I agree around preteen / early teen. Since we don't know the circumstances we don't even know if he was even there. We also don't know if Annie was even there in the timeframe that TC allegedly took Nancy home by himself. If that even happened.

Basically we know very little of anything still.
 
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LE can outright lie about a narrative, and it's not entrapment. Entrapment would be to lure someone to commit a crime.
Thanks for clarifying. My understanding of entrapment may be different as I am not based in the US. Here, it is quite a wide concept and could involve leading someone down a path to incriminate themselves.

Another observation I have that might point towards the ransom being a strategy. Would we have seen the letter leak online by now? I mean the letter has been sent to places like TMZ which are hardly known for discretion. The transmission to media organizations takes a degree of control away from LE re: leaks.
 
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Now that you mention it, the billboards don't seam to fit. This case doesn't need more awareness and she isn't a typical missing person. I think I remember reading that they were placed strategically? For what reason?

Was trying to catch up this morning.. I had to skip ahead lol I know this was hourssss ago that you posted, but the strategically placing of FBI signs.... could it be lthe radius that Harvey Levin thinks they would have to be?

Along those major routes, in case someone saw her in a vehicle, or saw something suspicious?


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In this NewsNation interview with Levin (of TMZ) speaking with Chris Cuomo, Levin says the ransom note provided the location of NG’s Apple Watch and “it was not in a place you would necessarily immediately think.” He says that that seemed to pique the interest of the FBI.

Levin says that the note also mentioned that the floodlights over the rear of the property were destroyed – not just damaged but destroyed. That matches what we’ve seen in videos. (On the other hand: news reporters have said that before a security guard was placed in front of the home, people were walking into the area. And if there was early drone footage, that may have covered the back yard.)

Whether the watch was really in the exact location given in the note hasn’t been made public, as far as I know. And it’s possible, I think, that the information may have leaked.

If NG is alive or was alive after the abduction, it would have been possible for the people holding her to provide information that only she and family would have known. We haven’t had any evidence of that, as far as I can tell.


This is going to sound terrible but for me to believe the ransom writer bad guys really had my mom- they would have to tell me something that LE didn’t document in my mom’s house. Leaks happen so where the watch was in the house, flood lights, etc would not convince me. I would want to hear something from my mom that only we know, not even something my siblings know too. Between me and my mom.

This family is in an agonizing position. I still don’t believe the ransom is legit and believe it’s a separate crime not directly connected to NG. IMO
 
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I think also it is a known police tactic to see whether close family members cooperate with public appeals (e.g. press conferences) and monitor their behaviour.
This is what I have thought all this week. That they told SG to act like she suspects nothing from them and to see everything that they say and do.

The Former TV journalist who, as she said, has contacts & experience for almost 40 years, was there ever any doubt that her source was not going to turn out to be correct? At minimum, the suspect is always the last person or people to be with the victim. Then you add to the mix the fact that someone only very close, like family, would know that the cameras do not back up to a cloud. Even if she had a caretaker or people who regularly helped at the house such as a chef or someone like that, those people would not know that. Then, as former LE said, no stranger, random criminal, is going into a home that they do not know at 1 something in the morning, and then staying there for 41 minutes. Only someone who is well familiar with that house would do that.

I cannot even imagine the horror of losing your beloved mom, which is bad enough, but in a violent, horrific manner. What a nightmare. I always thought the ransom notes are either someone who is the murderer diverting attention, or, horrible people online, not truly related to the murder.

Also, if it is the BIL, isn't he from Italy? Is it possible to have a friend or relative from Italy be sending ransom notes thinking that they would evade digital footprints?
 
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On one hand I have a hard time not thinking AG and SIL are involved however on the other hand I feel like if they had a video of a POI (which I thought I remember them saying they had) and it was one of them I definitely feel like an arrest would have been made by now.

But yeah I don’t really have an explanation for taking pictures in AG’s garage if something didn’t happen on that property/garage
 
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I'm thinking that a real kidnapper should know something about the scene which is very specific to the scene.

The fact that they mentioned broken floodlights which everyone could see were broken makes me think it's possibly an opportunist or someone who is just trying to confuse things as much as possible, a troll.

I know they also mentioned the watch. But my opinion stays that if they knew something very specific, they didn't even need to bring the floodlights up. There were so many other elements from the crime scene that they could have mentioned instead if they were real.
FWIW, Harvey Levin said that at the time TMZ received the first ransom, the broken floodlights were not public knowledge.
 

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