Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[browneyes]

Still no news?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Could the Circle K being checked be because the perp stopped there before NG's place or WITH her possibly in the car afterwards? OR - could (going with my theory) the SIL have been there that night and that particular Circle K would place him in the vicinity of NG vs his own home or where he was supposed to be?
I don't see why Circle K would report just some random man or some random car since the media isn't reporting any specfic car or suspect to report. It makes me think a traffic camera caught AG car at the intersection and LE needed tape pulled to see who was driving the car

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[bluevioletfour]

Something like this.
??

The UFED (Universal Forensics Extraction Device)

Cellebrite UFED - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On a recent Nancy Grace podcast, the Cellebrite was discussed.

 

[minazoe]

questions?

Has AG or her husband ever been physically violent with family members?
Does he or she have any psychiatric problems?
Does he or she have a boyfriend/girlfriend outside of her marriage?

this is a very weird situation and I don't feel like there was an accidental"killing" of Nancy, but it could be. What pulls me away from this theory is the level of perfection in the staging, minimal yet clean staging. It feels like it was thought out well in advance.

my thought is the staging is too minimal and that's why they don't believe the kidnap is real.

now, who , why , when and what? and they made that ransom video I am sure to watch AG's body language and reactions.

mOO

 

[Emerald1328]

Do we know that he was at home that evening?

Good point, I’m not sure! I would think he would still have some valuable information, like if his family was in financial trouble (no matter how well parents try to hide that from their kids, the kids still know about it in general, IMO), or would know or have an opinion on if there was any animosity in the family. That type of information would still be important in their investigation, but it might not produce as immediate of results as if he had some knowledge about something actually happening to her.

 

[Trino]

There is this year's Christmas photo posted early on in thread. SIL is there, one of those family p.j photo's. He also was described along with Nancy's daughter as they live very close, the ones that lend a hand to Nancy with living her best life. They've all lived very close by for decades. The only thing to seem to make it certain of SIL and Nancy's daughter, Annie, involvement in Nancy's terrible event, is the late night lights and deputies at their home, photographing etc inside their home. Light flashes, carrying a bag at the very least, out. They may of had confirmation of results on any possible evidence that was sent out for DNA, phone calls. IMO

Seems strange to revisit the home if there are thoughts of a person elsewhere demanding a ransom.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020469343604142508

 

[birdbox]

If I’m taking an Uber someplace but then have a free ride back, I’m totally taking the free ride instead of spending more money on a car ride with a stranger where I have to sit in uncomfortable silence or make small talk.

Yeah, like i said, just me and my opinion. Personally Id much rather sit in silence. I would hate small talk with a sil probably.

 

[LAhiker]

Could the Circle K being checked be because the perp stopped there before NG's place or WITH her possibly in the car afterwards? OR - could (going with my theory) the SIL have been there that night and that particular Circle K would place him in the vicinity of NG vs his own home or where he was supposed to be?
I don't see why Circle K would report just some random man or some random car since the media isn't reporting any specfic car or suspect to report. It makes me think a traffic camera caught AG car at the intersection and LE needed tape pulled to see who was driving the car

I thought the Circle K was being checked because NG's neighbor said there was an unmarked white van in the neighborhood a couple of day's before NG's disappearance, and that the van may have been seen at the Circle K. In that case, the sighting would've come from LE checking surveillance video in nearby locations and not because Circle K reported it.

I don't have link for this right now, but this is the impression I got from other posts on this thread. I could be wrong.

JMO

 

[ab01]

DBM: Already posted

 

[turaj]

I have a comment. If I take an Uber to a spot, I'm normally going to take it back as well. Normally. No need to blast me. Either you are comfortable with Uber or you aren't. That's just me. My opinion. If I take it there, im taking it back. If I was concerned for safety, well they already know my address, they picked me up earlier. It doesnt add up to me, thats all. Just me. I get it.

no blasting here just think from personal experience that taking it one way is very normal and getting a ride home later at night again very normal. I assume LE has checked her with Uber and bet she has d one this many times. Taking it over it it was light out and later dark.

 

[Izzylizzy]

On a recent Nancy Grace podcast, the Cellebrite was discussed.

Cellebrite was an example.
Probably a lot of companies manufacture them now but point is the mobile suitcases.

 

[cady]

Do we know that he was at home that evening?

Supposition is that mahjong needs 4 players, so 4th must've been the boy. JMO

 

[Walela]

Something in the 2nd message that may have helped prove they actually had NG would be something that NG told them that no one else could have known about like identifying an item that may have been buried with their father. Maybe the clothes he was wearing or a note that each child wrote placed in his casket. Something along those lines.

I was trying to think of something I could use to identify myself to my family if I were in NG's situation and the possibility that an in-law was involved. To me, it would have to be something deeply personal that was never discussed in the presence of anyone that had married into my family.

moo

 

[SaraSmile]

I've just been watching the 2 response to ransom videos. Something I noticed on both of them is AG has multiple microexpressions and it really became more obvious watching the videos back to back.

I am far from an expert in this area, but I am someone that is alert to subtle mannerisms in day to day life. And I'm not saying that these microexpressions mean any sort of guilt of AG, as it could be from stress, nerves, anxiety or her usual expressions.

However, something I did note in both videos was the raised eyebrows. Worth noting when it happens. Also, the micro smile and mouth twitching and movement. Easier to pick up when zoomed in of AG's face and listening to Savannah speak in the background.

I won't provide any links to some of the articles I've been reading because anything could be a cause of these expressions and most definitely does not suggest guilt, but it was just interesting to watch and understand what these types of microexpressions can mean based on research that is out there

I, too, noticed AG expressions changing from the first family video to yesterday’s.
It could be that she is very uncomfortable about the spotlight on her and TC.
Or, it could be guilt over a cover up, efforts to try to protect TC.

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020532730115792994

@MassGuy
Thanks for posting this.
In your opinion do you think this activity indicates LE viewing AG and husband as probably/possibly involved?

 

[Trino]

questions?

Has AG or her husband ever been physically violent with family members?
Does he or she have any psychiatric problems?
Does he or she have a boyfriend outside of her marriage?

this is a very weird situation and I don't feel like there was an accidental"killing" of Nancy, but it could be. What pulls me away from this theory is the level of perfection in the staging, minimal yet clean staging. It feels like it was thought out well in advance.

my thought is the staging is too minimal and that's why they don't believe the kidnap is real.

now, who , why , when and what? and they made that ransom video I am sure to watch AG's body language and reactions.

mOO

If the kidnapping isn't real, where is NG? Where is she if it is real? Tucson? Another state? Where is she if deceased?

 

[SRWCF]

They really are skittish creatures. We had some outside stray cats and a farm dog outside that looked over chickens. I think they could have stayed away due to the dog, honestly. But they just tend to hunt very small game, rats, rabbits, squirrels, etc. Very hidden elusive creatures. Lived there 15 years, never once saw them. Only heard them...and sometimes VERY close.

I live in the city limits but in the foothills in southwest Idaho. My neighborhood has coyotes, too. We see them all the time (and also hear them!). We also have a lot of rodents, mainly field mice and voles, for them to snack on. Not any squirrels because the houses are fairly new (since 2019) so not many tall trees for them to live in at the moment.

 

[keek]

Seems strange to revisit the home if there are thoughts of a person elsewhere demanding a ransom.

Could be connected as they are the ransom demanders OR the ransom demander is just a horrible person that tailgated onto the 'abduction'.. LE has reason for sure to be there. IMO

 

[Trino]

Could be connected as they are the ransom demanders OR the ransom demander is just a horrible person that tailgated onto the 'abduction'.. LE has reason for sure to be there. IMO

If the family is involved and the ranson is just tailgated, this really complicates things for the family. Do we suppose the ransom is all coming from SG?