AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Izzylizzy]

Could be connected as they are the ransom demanders OR the ransom demander is just a horrible person that tailgated onto the 'abduction'.. LE has reason for sure to be there. IMO

Didn't you say that the search/seize @ AG's house could be because some forensic results came back?

 

[Emerald1328]

Generally, LE can't talk to a minor without a parent's permission and presence; and/or with a court appointed guardian/lawyer present. So it's unlikely LE has had access to a minor at this point. If I were LE, I'd want to see if the parents were calling lawyers; and when they started to do so. Just my opinions.

If the son’s parents haven’t let him talk to LE yet, IMO there is no way SG would be sitting next to AG in the instagram videos.

 

[Wagora]

May not have even played Mahjong

You can play with three or even two.

 

[cady]

i'lll go a step further and. say they received a message or proof that she is not alive.

Or, they likely believe that she is deceased if only because of all this time that has passed with no meds and all the trauma. Maybe hoping against hope that she has survived this horror. JMO

 

[SMK777]

Yes, agreed, my Christian relatives call a funeral, a celebration of life. Very common term.

It seems that in recent years, more and more people are using "Celebration of Life" rather than funeral service or memorial. I have been seeing it in my own extended family.

 

[ab01]

Does anyone have any details on how the "fake ransom letter guy" was captured? Or how they figured out so quickly he was not involved?

The absolute brain dead moron used a voip that was connected to an email that was registered in his own name.

 

[SilentHill]

I can’t think of any other explanation.

If as suggested earlier in the thread LE are restarting the investigation from scratch again then it wouldn't necessarily be strange for them to reinvestigate the last people she was known to be with IMO.

 

[turaj]

Generally, LE can't talk to a minor without a parent's permission and presence; and/or with a court appointed guardian/lawyer present. So it's unlikely LE has had access to a minor at this point. If I were LE, I'd want to see if the parents were calling lawyers; and when they started to do so. Just my opinions.

they would be very very dumb not to have contacted lawyers. I am sure they have.

 

[armchairagatha]

There are dozen plus clips of NG visiting SG on Today show and I have seen none of AG or CG visiting Today Show set. Yes, a few public photos of AG with SG and NG but that's it. SG and NG super close relationship. I wonder who was NG's primary caregiver in Tucson as that person will hold lots of info.

I am fairly sure that AG and her husband are NG’s primary caregivers in Tucson. I haven’t seen anything about a third party caregiver mentioned anywhere.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I can't figure out why they would carry a folding table into the house rather than a forensic evidence collection kit as pointed out by RainyDazeKS yesterday.

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Maybe to set a light, or external flash on?

 

[Idreamofgenie]

People instinctively suspect whoever was:
last to see the person, physically nearby, or involved in routine logistics (rides, visits, caregiving)
That doesn’t mean wrongdoing, it just means access. The public often confuses access with guilt.
I think it highly irresponsible of AB to say what she said about SIL. Rumors are especially dangerous here. Once a name starts circulating confirmation bias kicks in, normal behavior gets reinterpreted, grief responses get judged as guilt or indifference.
That can permanently damage lives, even when police never suspected the person at all.
The phrase “last known person to see her” is incredibly misleading. That’s just a timeline anchor. It is not an accusation. Police treat it as neutral data.
The public treats it like a smoking gun. I believe that’s a mistake.
Investigations don’t follow public logic.
They follow evidence, and evidence unfolds slowly. What’s loud right now is speculation. What’s quiet is the real work.
The public’s understanding of what’s happening behind the scenes is not their operational priority. I do think LEO and FBI and the family know and have known much more than what’s being disclosed. There’s a reason for that. The public knows what they want us to know. Prayers for Nancy and family. MOO

Agree. So many times an innocent person gets dragged through the mud: think Elizabeth Smart’s father. Everyone thought he did it…..until finally we learned he didn’t.

 

[turaj]

Picking her up to come to the restaurant with them would also have given them an opportunity to take her home. Taking an Uber there means nothing when it comes to that.

there is no restaurant involved that evening.

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

She could be anywhere within a few hour drive. The desert is vast.

According to the original ransom note sent to TMZ, the kidnappers (according to H. Levin who read the note) said she could be returned within several hours upon receipt of ransom. He assumed it meant by car, and given the speed limit he came up with this radius. That is if you believe the ransom angle. Given the time before she reported missing a body in another scenario could have also been disposed far away from the house or in the wilderness (Tuscon is a dark town due to ordinances with vast open areas).

But returned is an open ended statement. By car? Why would they chance moving her and be caught? IMHO, I believe this to mean she is within a several hour radius being held. Think of it this way--oh we got the bitcoin, now you can find your mother here. That would make the most sense to me anyway.

 

[m00c0w]

I can't figure out why they would carry a folding table into the house rather than a forensic evidence collection kit as pointed out by RainyDazeKS yesterday.

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Definitely looks like a folding table. It’s entirely believable because you typically need somewhere to set up shop, collect evidence, whatever, and there may not be many larger flat surfaces that don’t already have stuff on them. It’s much less obtrusive to just set up a table in a corner. Granted, I usually encounter this during search warrants where the tables and surfaces are already of questionable cleanliness (I would prefer to not have my stuff covered in whatever mysterious white powder is all over everything). But it’s not out of the realm of reason in something like this as well.

JMO

 

[keek]

Yes, agreed, my Christian relatives call a funeral, a celebration of life. Very common term.

I know people that have a private ceremony/cremation, no wake. Announcement is made in obituary that 'in the Spring the family will hold a celebration of life and notify. It saves thousands and the immediate family has control of their sad and personal situation. IMO Catholic and protestant denominations are the families I know of as easier to be freer I think with such things. IMO

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020539494437683390

 

[auburnmomof2]

Does anyone in the family have a birthday coming up? Possibly one of the grandchildren? Being optimistic here and thinking the proof of life was a message saying we know so in so has a birthday in x amount of days.
CG is very very private, possibly one of his immediate family members?
Thus the celebration SG is referring to

 

[nycpizzaparty]

I keep thinking about the church person calling about ng being absent. Tbh that confuses me all ag tc would have to say was we made plans to go shopping or something today ,I'm not sure if that parts a lie ,I really feel bad for the family I hope they get to the truth soon.

I think the purpose of the church person call - whether it actually happened or was orchestrated - was to give them a reason to be at NG's house. You have a call from a third party causing them to go to NG house.

It's possible that there is a real timeline involving someone or some people being active all night trying to get rid of a body and destroy evidence. Think Patsy Ramsey wearing the same clothes from the day before when police arrived at her house.

 

[mikeshanty]

Does anyone in the family have a birthday coming up? Possibly one of the grandchildren? Being optimistic here and thinking the proof of life was a message saying we know so in so has a birthday in x amount of days.
CG is very very private, possibly one of his immediate family members?
Thus the celebration SG is referring to

It was NG's birthday on 27 January. So just days before she went missing.

 

[missy1974]

I can't figure out why they would carry a folding table into the house rather than a forensic evidence collection kit as pointed out by RainyDazeKS yesterday.

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I clicked your link.. the size of the case ... 8.5" x 4.5" x 1.75"

whatever the deputy was carrying was larger then that IMO Doesn't mean it isn't something similar to the kit you linked and larger. My point was, many reports today saying it was "taken" from the home as if there is something nefarious about it. I disagree.

IMO