AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2020482418960978418

So according to this NG had dinner at AG's house the night she went missing.

I see so much put out there (conflicting). This is a confirmed narrative?

 

[WillenFan21]

Hoping we get some answers today.

 

[MassGuy]

I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.

Wow, this does change things then.

So you're saying that they'd only have the data from the last interrogation, and it's entirely possible something could have happened to her much earlier?

 

[kkkkatie]

Nah this has always seemed more like a door number 1 ssitua

Possibly a silly question (sorry for that!) but what kind of thing would investigators be doing that would involve loud clanking?

I wondered about that too.

 

[auburnmomof2]

I had been thinking this is how it worked but wasn't sure. Thank you for explaining

I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.

 

[Fargo]

I hadn't seen information on two teens being arrested in this case - can you share the information?

And jmo, but is that credible that teenagers could pull off a crime that appears to have stumped investigators and there being no real information a week later?

I don't believe these two cases are related. In the teen case they were hired by someone else to invade the home of a known crypto king to gain access to his wallet. The perpetrators knew the victim had millions in crypto and targeted him for that reason.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

It was NG's birthday on 27 January. So just days before she went missing.

What’s interesting too is there were no posts to her Facebook if that dinner was a birthday celebration.

 

[keek]

wonder if any high school students are involved in this bizarre case? I have been saying this is so Jon Benet the whole time, but now I'm getting shades of Susan Smith...or what's that case where a school teacher gets a student to whack her husband?

forgive me if I am wrong which I often am....

well I'm sure we will be talking about this case forever. mOO

Oh that could def happen. It's a sad new world and money and blackmail talks, no matter what the age. imo

 

[missy1974]

ALLEGEDLY Annie’s car was seized at night. There’s a photo on X of the alleged car on a transporter (or whatever you call them). This was not reported by a reliable MSM so I don’t know if it’s truly her car. JMO it’s something I saw but did not bring here because the source is a random person with no press credentials.

What makes you say that the car has been returned? I’m not challenging you, just wondering.

I believe it was Nancy's car that we have photos of that was taken at night. Friday night.

I *think* the Sheriff said that it was processed and returned (after AB's reports), but I could be wrong. He was all over the place until yesterday and I have watched so many clips of his interviews. I am not sure if I even know where to try to find it. I do find it really odd that that we didn't get a picture of that, but it was earlier in the week before all the media has been camping out 24/7.

 

[turaj]

You'd think it would be interviews and not luminol.

pretty sure there are extensive interviews going on. at another location.

 

[SilentHill]

You'd think it would be interviews and not luminol.

Where was that reported I thought that was just speculated on?

 

[JKathryn]

That's an interesting angle. I'd like to know who the homeowner is.

Pima County records are searchable online

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

I don't believe these two cases are related. In the teen case they were hired by someone else to invade the home of a known crypto king to gain access to his wallet. The perpetrators knew the victim had millions in crypto and targeted him for that reason.

Hadn't read it was the home of a known cryto-king. Thanks for sharing that bit of info.

 

[wyome]

i'lll go a step further and. say they received a message or proof that she is not alive.

That's what I think the message was. Think the perp is desperate to get the heat off and SG doubled down to agree to pay in return for body.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

I'm not in the US so realise it could be different - BUT - if there was no case for AG/TC being suspects, would LE officially state that they were helping enquiries but NOT suspects? I'm sure there have been cases in the UK where police have said, stop speculating, these aren't POI. OR, family have issues statements saying, please respect our privacy and don't speculate etc.

 

[stmichael]

i just assumed they meant they would celebrate her return! would that be an odd thing to say? (i’m not a native english speaker)

It's an odd phrasing and has been mentioned by several former FBI agents. Often used in spiritual terms.

Coupled with the somber tone and context of the other phrasing, it could possibly point to the negotiation for a body. Experts have said there was a lot of "coded" language in that video and it may have been crafted w/ FBI aide.

 

[su5ie]

I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.

Was there also something about a floodlight coming on in the a.m

 

[Fromeaster]

The sheriff returned to Nancy's house.

 

[sony12]

Ok the news is getting out of hand now. I saw a news clip of the officer running the case being spotted at a college basketball game. If the guy wants to go to a college basketball game during his off hours he should be allowed to do that no matter what he is investigating with his job.

Whatever gets these outlets a news story these days though I guess. If the reporting is going to begin to devolve into this though I think I am going to stop following the news of the case so closely.

 

[keek]

I wondered about that too.

I have not heard about loud clanking. Was it at the daughter Annie's house? May of been metal ladder or taking apart some metal parts built into the room. I think it was supposed to be the garage that the bright sweeping lights were seen. IMO