Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Rumination1]

I can imagine them discussing the finances (that could be comingled by that time) and I can imagine if the push was too huge, Nancy grabbing her cellphone to call Savannah or Camron, to talk to them about it, and her SIL grabbing it from her hand and her accidentally falling.

The rest, however, seems too planned.



Well, if Savannah's finances were in any way the topic, it only illustrates how right SG was in keeping her in-law as far from her life as possible!

I imagine a different situation. Could a provincial and not too savvy BIL, knowing that his SIL rubbed shoulders with "the famous and the mighty", harbor the hope that SG could promote his music to the top of the charts? Something irrational. Just my idea.

Whilst I can fathom an accidental death such as this and a coverup I wonder how these messages were so quickly constructed and routed via ip addresses and how these get sent when the family is under scrutiny.
That bit seems unmanageable without foresight .

I’m inclined to believe this is a true kidnapping by an acquaintance , or stranger who realised Nancys daughter had money

 

[mikeshanty]

Looks like things have slowed down today. I imagine tomorrow might be a day of big developments.

 

[turaj]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020557653588726267

So basically, we don’t know what we don’t know

sounds like Pima County is signing off for today. Probably most watching the big game? Sort of early in the day for the update.

 

[Sessiebo]

Where are we getting the USD info from?

Who said that it said that? or where was it said?

I don't think it's unusual when talking in BTC world to use a specifc currency though, but wondering where it is even coming from or if it's speculation?

That's what i have been wondering aswell, is it just hearsay or did someone reported it this way and people just ran with it?

 

[mikeshanty]

TMZ has an update; pastor apparently asked by Guthrie family to pray for "those" responsible.

 

[crhedBngr]

So was that gone or present? I did not see that in the list of things in the home.

Not sure.

So many things going on . . . . I can't keep up.

 

[Napoli]

And Savannah's considerable personal finances are well known and a potential motive.
And the SIL/BIL may have been having financial troubles, which can lead to arguments/emotionally charged situations.
And kidnappings for ransom revolve around money.
And murders often happen over money.

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Once the money is converted to bitcoin, it takes from 10 minutes to an hour after the perp would receive it. Quite frankly, Savannah Guthrie is just not that big of a personality unless you watch NBC. This was a local kidnapping by people who have some lopsided connection to the family. She, in the perp's mind, is the money source..yet nothing has been sent. The banks are unable to do this on a Sunday (per commentator on Fox). It took her a week to make a decision on this. Everyone here is sure she will pay. Everyone thinks mom said no to SIL. Crime of opportunity because someone had a connection to the mom. Sometimes, people have money because they dont spend it. It's been a week. AB threw a real monkey wrench into this. JMO This whole sil thing is a rabbit hole. MOO

 

[tricia]

MUST WATCH.

 

[missy1974]

I thought the ransomers wanted Bitcoin, not USD?

They do. But when you send it, you send it and it converts to bitcoin.

As of right now, this is what that converts to:

But it fluctuates... LOTS... so asking for a $USD amount is normal/reasonable IMO

 

[Bodhi]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

You might if you wanted investigators or the family to think you are not in the US.

 

[tricia]

MUST WATCH.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Or she already has a crypto account. Maybe SG and her husband are crypto investors/traders. If she has enough in her account it would only be a matter of opening her app, picking the currency, typing in the address and amount, choosing a network, and hitting send.

If she doesn’t have that amount, again she likely has accountants and concierge services with a bank, they can gather $6 million pretty quickly if they have to. I don’t know what the process is for celebrity kidnap insurance, if they pay or reimburse or how that’s done.

If she doesn’t have a crypto account then it could take longer. The US has KYC (know your customer) regulations for signing up with a crypto exchange where you have to identify yourself. To get started, go to the App Store, download an app for an exchange (Coinbase, Kraken, etc) and go from there.

She’s not in Milan so Italian laws are moot.

 

[Turkeytrot]

You might if you wanted investigators or the family to think you are not in the US.

Yep, interesting point.

 

[Mica]

@mikeshanty

Nancy Guthrie's Pastor Prays for The Hearts of Those Responsible For Her Abduction

As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, her church delivered a powerful and emotional message not just for her safety, but for the conscience of those who may be responsible for her abduction.

www.tmz.com

 

[Diddian]

Yes but look what @Springplease found!!!!! Based on video/pics of the hvacs and wall, it doesn’t look like they are on NG’s property!

Yikes. A neighbor's home.

Remembering "Silence of the Lambs" (but memory is vague). I remember Hannibal Lecter advised Jodie Foster's character (Clarice) that a perpetrator wants he frequently sees. And Clarice traveled to a neighborhood where a teen or young adult woman had disappeared some time before the current missing woman and she spoke with a member of that vicim's family and toured the house. And she noticed that that victim had been a seamstress who had patterns and a sewing machine in her room. Then, she noticed the window of that victim's room was overlooked by a window of a neighbor's home. Clarice knocked on that neighbor's door and discovered a man living there in his deceased mother's home and she started asking him questions and began also noticing oddities which eventually led her to the basement where the killer had the current missing woman in a deep hole.

But that is just a story. It could be that a perpetrator is not a neighbor, but a trespasser who uses a neighbor's home and property as he pleases.

ETA: The message expressed by SG in the first video ("Ask her, you'll see) was from SOTL. Is this perpetrator playing sick games?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

 

[emigrate]

Oh, please no. Don't be more missing women. PLEASE GOD! NOOOOO!!

If I was an elderly close neighbor I would be worried of whoever coming back just to make everything more wild and taking another person. I know it is unlikely but I would be out of the neighborhood at a hotel until solved.

 

[steff13]

Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

Or to the potential that the perpetrator is someone with ties outside the United States.

 

[Napoli]

Reported on Fox. At the request of the Guffrie family, a law enforcement officer has been placed at Nancy Guffrie's home.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Until the sheriff’s department has a believable and benign reason for them being at AG’s house late last night, and they share it with the public, I will not believe that they don’t have a suspect.