AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I am now moving to the possibly they are thinking the ransom angle is unreliable, or they are using public posts as a tactic to flush out whoever is behind it (real or fake). I am lead to believe that her latest plea is acting like a psychological hook. "we believe she is still out there" implies, to me, we don't have proof she is deceased. She is a seasoned journalist, married to a high-level communications strategist, and I strongly feel the recent video from today was coordinated by LE.

This was strategic.
 
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Yes. The first two videos were speaking directly to the "kidnappers" and only them. In this new one she cuts them out completely and appeals to her public for help. Major FU.

My opinion only.
Agreed. But WHY? What changed?
 
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but they said she went in through the garage
Correct, they being LE. But how did LE conclude that? AFAIK they only know that the garage opened then closed.
 
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I got a sense that SG is taking matters into her own hands now and is fed up of LE.

Seriously, how can we be getting this from SG but absolutely nothing from LE?! With no perp, what are they doing all day?
 
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I am more confused then ever.
 
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Please delete if I can't say this, but early on someone else pointed out that AG is hiding her ring finger between her legs during the 2nd video. Did anyone see her wedding ring?
I don’t think anyone knows if she’s actually married or not.
 
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I am hoping Savannah sent this last video because they expect or hope the abductor a will be begin to move Nancy back towards Tucson after the ransom is paid and they want people to be watching out because they could be anywhere.
Such an excellent point. Perhaps also why she has her makeup done, for the reunion with her mom and I'm sure lots of cameras.
 
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I see it differently.
she expressed prayers coming to her and her siblings, and then paused and basically said "where ever she is" in relation to the prayers coming to her mother....
To me, that is a feeling that she is not alive.

I think the "she is out there'" is more of a desparate hope for more tips,

4pm on Monday, is she giving notice, that she is not currently in negotiations........
I just watched this again, and you’re right. It’s along the lines of her last statement, yet perhaps even a bit less hopeful in that regard.

I keep forgetting the whole religious undertone here, and keep viewing these statements through a more traditional lens.
 
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SG making a video three hours before the ransom payment deadline and not addressing the kidnappers feels as if they no longer believe the ransom demand was authentic. If that's the case, the hope of NG being alive goes way down, IMO. I think SG knows that and it's now a "let's bring this to a resolution" approach. That's why she appeared more pulled together, more resolved and without her siblings, IMO. She/they want to find NG and also find the people who did this. This feels like a new direction.
 
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Sorry if this has already been asked. Can someone with Bitcoin knowledge confirm that Bitcoin accounts / wallets are publicly accessible to view? It is being reported that the Bitcoin account still has a $0 balance but i'm not understanding how anyone even if they have the account / wallet number could see the balance. I know absolutely nothing about Bitcoin
 
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I am hoping Savannah sent this last video because they expect or hope the abductor a will be begin to move Nancy back towards Tucson after the ransom is paid and they want people to be watching out because they could be anywhere.
Wouldn't that make the perp freak out though?
 
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Ay yi yi. I have like 30 pages I missed in just a couple hours and this has turned to chaos that's VERY hard to navigate through. I am a new poster but "long time lurker", but I'm getting burnt out on things like ChatGPT telling us it's theories on what happened.

I said very, very early on I believed it was potentially a home invasion gone wrong but was sort of dismissed because the focus was all on SIL. The more the police sorta botched things, the more attention and suspicion landed on SIL.

Police arrived to a scene that apparently quickly indicated foul play, as they began with searches and the homicide team was called in which is NOT the norm when someone is reported missing. Something about that scene indicated there was a serious problem. BBC - Timeline of events EARLY in investigation

As with child abductions (& other disappearances), time is extremely important with senior citizens disappearances. I don't know how the sheriffs department will ultimately really answer for their repeated dropped balls, but this is a level of dropping the ball I don't remember seeing since the JonBenet screw ups.

I don't know what to make of the newest video. This is just an absolute cluster muck of a case at this point.
 
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If that were the case, there are many other options available than including a nationwide appeal for people to now become involved and start reporting things.
How so? Genuine question
 
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IMO this video was a heads up to everyone everywhere to BOL for any strange or suspicious activity by anyone because she is about to send someone out there 6M, and whoever that person is might do something to draw attention to themselves or do something out of the ordinary because of this sudden wealth. Or maybe if on the very small chance that Nancy is still alive and this person isn’t a complete monster, they will suddenly drop her off somewhere after receiving the money.

I just pray there is a resolution to this soon.
 
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I don’t know much about the mentality of the people in cartels, but I am still considering them religious Catholics from a nuclear society. As such, they’d likely abstain from abducting children or elderly people - it is a different kind of “sin”.

About the SIL, we simply don’t have enough information. If it was a true accident, then the family might decide to act according to their mom’s potential wishes and then this is all we get.

The ransom angle is either extremely idiotic or what a teenager would add to the mix, but I don’t take it seriously.

One thing to consider. Nancy probably felt independent and did not want to move out of her own house. Financially, she could be inclined to help the daughter who lived close by. Maybe her other children were not happy with the situation but couldn’t change much. Also, Nancy might have known about the dynamic in a nearby house but her choices were guided by being protective of the daughter.
I'm not familiar with your reference to the dynamic in a nearby house. Can you bring me up to date, please? Something with NG's neighbors or AG's? The only issue I know of in the neighborhood is the police report of a trespasser. Thank you!
 
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I wonder if SG was more put together and made up today because she's been in meetings with her banks and lawyers all day to get the money?
I think SG started to line up the money long before today and had it ready, just in case they decided they would have to pay the ransom, the money would be ready to go, whether they ever sent it or not.
 
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Maybe Savannah gave the FBI access to her Instagram and they are posting for her, therefore typing differently than she does? Also so they can monitor if she’s getting any strange messages possibly from the perp? Or maybe she really is typing in lowercase herself to appeal to the perp based on the notes they’ve received
 
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I think SG started to line up the money long before today and had it ready, just in case they decided they would have to pay the ransom, the money would be ready to go, whether they ever sent it or not.
Do you think SG started to make preparations for a ransom situation maybe many months ago? We don't know if she was facing prior threats.
 

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