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Could you please provide a source from the investigation that clearly states the doorbell camera was a Nest? I am having difficulty finding that.
Here is my prior post on the subject with images.

And, to improve my prior attribution, the door photo is from: Photos of Nancy Guthrie crime scene as cops investigate 'ransom notes' (Edit, further sourcing: I know Daily Mail is not the most reputable, but they had the clearest photo of that spot. From this Brian Entin / News Nation video, you can't see it as clearly but I think it's confirmation that the Daily Mail photo is actually of NG's door: )

The Nest video is from timestamp 3:10 here:


 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.
 
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I'd say 75% of the countless murder cases I've followed on here have involved the FBI in some capacity.
Especially if state/country lines are crossed… the one hoaxer alone was from a different state
 
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Thank you, @tricia.
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, FOX NEWS WILL BE ALLOWED AS A SOURCE FOR THIS CASE ONLY.
Thank you, @tricia!!! I was just mentioning to someone earlier wondering if this was going to happen for this case.

Thanks again!
 
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he is definitely number one suspect imo.

I don’t find it strange though that he hasn’t been seen since Thursday - even if he has nothing to do with this with all the coverage on him he probably rightly feels he needs to lay low.
Emphasis mine.
If a person is innocent, the best action they can take is to stand with law enforcement maybe at a presser and beg for the missing person.
If that's not forthcoming (police wanting to give a press conf.); perhaps spend all of your time cooperating to make sure LE can clear you and then you can move on ?
Not saying he didn't cooperate.

Maybe LE aren't satisfied with the answers or information they're receiving, and if someone is truly innocent that's not going to make them want to be seen anywhere in public.
Being in absentia is not helpful.
Unless he's busy at work ?
Just pointing that out.
Omo.
 
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Especially if state/country lines are crossed
No lines were crossed in any of those cases. It was just police departments out of their depth, who needed help. In the Suzanne Morphew case for instance, the FBI did almost all of the work. They weren't the lead agency though, and they knew from the get-go that despite a scene set up to look like an abduction, no abduction occurred.
 
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I saw that earlier but wasnt sure if we could post that. IF true Savannahs plea would make more sense to me actually.
I think they would get the gas station footage regardless even if just ruling them out as they will want to see what time the car passed there (if It did). I also think him not being seen isn't surprising considering he has been publicly ousted as a suspect by the media. I am really not sure where I sit when it comes to the family being involved. I do think its strange they keep going back to AG & TC's house as there shouldn't really need to be much done there
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.

My googs search found a few CKs on N Oracle Road
 
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Any thoughts on the new leads? Presence at both Guthrie residences suggested. Has anyone seen any proof of this? Do we know if SA paid any ransom? I wish they would have drained that septics or cisterns behind her house...the diameter of the manholes appeared huge!
 
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I guess it would depend on how big the church is. Our church is rather small and I can think of at least one person who cannot make it to church because of mobility issues. He is there in the live stream each and every Sunday. I am back and forth between watching the live stream and actually attendance. BUT--had I been watching the livestream and I didn't see him post an Amen or I Love that hymn or say anything---then yes I would be contacting his wife to ask her if he was doing ok. Albeit, we know the family quite well. But I don't think someone noticing someone wasn't in the livestream chatting (especially if they usually do) and following up on "is your mom feeling ok, I didn't see her in the live chat today" is unusual.

But in just a single service to notice that NG didnt comment so the person makes a call to the family? If I missed a friends chat comments in one service, I would assume they didn’t feel well, took a weekend trip or even missed an alarm. If they didn’t show up for the following Sunday I would check in with them.
 
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Did she leave her hearing aids when they took her?
 
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Tricia has posted the reasoning before, so you can search the thread and read. Either way, it’s not up for debate. If you disagree, you (just like all of us) are not required to be here.
I have looked is there a help F&Q Section with what sites cannot be used?
 
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