AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #15,701
he is definitely number one suspect imo.

I don’t find it strange though that he hasn’t been seen since Thursday - even if he has nothing to do with this with all the coverage on him he probably rightly feels he needs to lay low.
Emphasis mine.
If a person is innocent, the best action they can take is to stand with law enforcement maybe at a presser and beg for the missing person.
If that's not forthcoming (police wanting to give a press conf.); perhaps spend all of your time cooperating to make sure LE can clear you and then you can move on ?
Not saying he didn't cooperate.

Maybe LE aren't satisfied with the answers or information they're receiving, and if someone is truly innocent that's not going to make them want to be seen anywhere in public.
Being in absentia is not helpful.
Unless he's busy at work ?
Just pointing that out.
Omo.
 
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Especially if state/country lines are crossed
No lines were crossed in any of those cases. It was just police departments out of their depth, who needed help. In the Suzanne Morphew case for instance, the FBI did almost all of the work. They weren't the lead agency though, and they knew from the get-go that despite a scene set up to look like an abduction, no abduction occurred.
 
  • #15,703
I saw that earlier but wasnt sure if we could post that. IF true Savannahs plea would make more sense to me actually.
I think they would get the gas station footage regardless even if just ruling them out as they will want to see what time the car passed there (if It did). I also think him not being seen isn't surprising considering he has been publicly ousted as a suspect by the media. I am really not sure where I sit when it comes to the family being involved. I do think its strange they keep going back to AG & TC's house as there shouldn't really need to be much done there
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.

My googs search found a few CKs on N Oracle Road
 
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Any thoughts on the new leads? Presence at both Guthrie residences suggested. Has anyone seen any proof of this? Do we know if SA paid any ransom? I wish they would have drained that septics or cisterns behind her house...the diameter of the manholes appeared huge!
 
  • #15,706
I guess it would depend on how big the church is. Our church is rather small and I can think of at least one person who cannot make it to church because of mobility issues. He is there in the live stream each and every Sunday. I am back and forth between watching the live stream and actually attendance. BUT--had I been watching the livestream and I didn't see him post an Amen or I Love that hymn or say anything---then yes I would be contacting his wife to ask her if he was doing ok. Albeit, we know the family quite well. But I don't think someone noticing someone wasn't in the livestream chatting (especially if they usually do) and following up on "is your mom feeling ok, I didn't see her in the live chat today" is unusual.

But in just a single service to notice that NG didnt comment so the person makes a call to the family? If I missed a friends chat comments in one service, I would assume they didn’t feel well, took a weekend trip or even missed an alarm. If they didn’t show up for the following Sunday I would check in with them.
 
  • #15,707
Did she leave her hearing aids when they took her?
 
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Tricia has posted the reasoning before, so you can search the thread and read. Either way, it’s not up for debate. If you disagree, you (just like all of us) are not required to be here.
I have looked is there a help F&Q Section with what sites cannot be used?
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.
JMO but I think too much focus is on this one Circle K. I believe they have been to ALL the businesses along that route and any route leaving the area.
 
  • #15,710
The pacemaker could have been synced to the iPhone anywhere - at her daughters or at her friends or at the store - she didn’t have to be home - the two devices just had to be within Bluetooth range. Let’s say she left or was taken from her home at midnight but then at 2 something someone took her watch and returned it to the house. Just an example - not in any way saying I think that happened. Also she could have been home for hours after the disconnect if it was manually disconnected or she got too far away from the iPhone. The only thing we know for sure is what time it disconnected.
Assuming they have access to the Apple Watch and iPhone, they can track activity and get some idea of what happened when. The step counts are time stamped, for example. In the Health app, under ‘All data’, there’s some decent logging of step times, not just counts. GPS locations should be relatively easy to pull, too.
 
  • #15,711
The SIL claim was clickbait. Neither the SIL nor AG are involved. If authorities even had a tiny suspicion they were, then they would have search warrants. I know crime stats show there's a connection between last person to see a victim but LEs actions prove they are not suspects at this time.
Agree to disagree 🤷‍♀️
 
  • #15,712
But in just a single service to notice that NG didnt comment so the person makes a call to the family? If I missed a friends chat comments in one service, I would assume they didn’t feel well, took a weekend trip or even missed an alarm. If they didn’t show up for the following Sunday I would check in with them.
Exactly. 🎯
 
  • #15,713
Wonder if they can do geofencing in that area to see what cell phones were in the area at the time of the activity linked to her being taken. Or maybe they are following up on that if it was done?
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.

Still searching for the exact post but here’s one of the MSM articles about it … and like you said, it doesn’t identify which one exactly.

ETA: this New York post article has a bit more details about more general location of the gas station.
A Circle K employee confirmed to The Post that investigators showed up on Friday at the gas station, which is just half a mile away from the home of Nancy’s daughter Anne and her husband Tommaso Cioni.
 
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Is anyone else still curious about what Donald Trump meant by his comments on day 6 of the search (Friday)? For context, Trump told reporters he had received new information on the case through federal law enforcement and the FBI.

Part of what he stated:

“A lot’s taken place in the last couple of hours. A lot of things have happened with regard to that horrible situation in the last couple of hours.”

I wonder what he is talking about?
 
  • #15,716
JMO but I think too much focus is on this one Circle K. I believe they have been to ALL the businesses along that route and any route leaving the area.
IMO the Circle K matters so much because it’s one of the few businesses with cameras that you have to pass along any of the routes from NG’s house to AG’s.
 
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Can someone tell me WHICH Circle K provided the surveillance video? MSM consistently reports it is one on Oracle Road. As a 40+ year Tucson resident I struggled to remember one on Oracle. A quick google maps check did not find one either. There are a few close to Oracle though.
I believe its this one Google Maps

Based on local news reporters being on scene and appearing to report from the Grant Rd side by the dumpsters
 
  • #15,718
Sorry if this has been shared already, but BE says the pastor at Nancy's church said she had switched over to virtual atttendence.


Thank you for this.
Is this newly released information?
Another poster stated earlier that someone had talked with her pastor and I asked them for a link since I hadn't heard that but they never got back to me.

My question is why did the New York Times state that a friend contacted the family when Nancy wasn't sitting in her pew?

Is there virtual pews?
 
  • #15,719
The SIL claim was clickbait. Neither the SIL nor AG are involved. If authorities even had a tiny suspicion they were, then they would have search warrants. I know crime stats show there's a connection between last person to see a victim but LEs actions prove they are not suspects at this time.


In the circumstances, surely TC would've been publicly cleared if there wasn't even a tiny suspicion ???
 
  • #15,720
But in just a single service to notice that NG didnt comment so the person makes a call to the family? If I missed a friends chat comments in one service, I would assume they didn’t feel well, took a weekend trip or even missed an alarm. If they didn’t show up for the following Sunday I would check in with them.
If my friend was 84 years old I would check in with them and their family if no response from friend.
 

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