• #18,321
I'd def turn in a family member. I submitted my 23&me to GEDmatch for this purpose. Any one who commits a crime should have to face consequences. I don't care if it's a relative.
Yes, I also allow LE to use my kit on GEDmatch. Sorry not sorry if some third or fourth cousin is a criminal and my DNA helps catch them 🤷‍♀️

moo
 
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Many concealed carry permit holders today prefer appendix carry because it allows them to get to their firearm the fastest.
Was just coming here to say same thing. It was big on insta a few years back. Usually younger people. IMO
 
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It does look like the person might be wearing a mask. Not this exact Charlie Chaplin one, but maybe something similar
 
  • #18,325
Minnesotan. We wear real winter coats. Relative in Albuquerque doesn't even own a winter coat that would make it here. Guess it depends on your definition of a coat.
Minnesotan also 🙌
 
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It really looks to me as though he's holding the latanas with meaning as if to display them. it's spooky even.

1. if he wanted to block the camera, his hand in heavy nitrile type gloves would do and would have been quicker
2. the placement of the flowers in the frame, and holding a mini flashlight in his mouth does not jive with an attempt at blocking


or it could be some clumsy move by an amateur after all, weird vibes even after these pics, just so wonky
Or he was signalling to someone inside who was bringing NG to the front door? Front door didn’t look tampered with, and I can't imagine NG answering at that time of the morning to that scary looking individual. MOO
 
  • #18,327
I doubt he is a random burglar who was there to rob. Burglars prefer empty houses. Odds are high in the middle of the night that the home is occupied by the resident who is fast asleep. He was there for NG imo.
He was not there to steal. Went with an already full backpack and nothing was reported missing from the home that I recall. He went there for NG because he was looking for someone who was connected enough to someone who would pay a ransom. Family stalled on ransom. (starting last week). Meanwhile, he had already murderd NG or she died. I still maintain this was a crazed stalker of SG. jmo Just now..LE seen going into AG's home.
 
  • #18,328
Intruder /very bad guy :
I think unprepared. He encounters the camera which should have been planned for - and it was not.
He is moving slowly - I am going to say he is no mastermind.
The gun holster looks very rinky dink almost like a childs toy gun holder and the positioning is strange - is there an actual gun in it or a knife?
Back pack looks very cheap and "stuffed" like right from the store display ...even with bubble pack - or a tent or clothes - there are no impressions of anything I can see inside it. Was that just a cover in case someone saw him ? Coming back from a hike in the nearby mountain area/woods?
He is not athletic - watch when he bends over for the brush one leg stays straight - too much exertion for him ?nd
I think def a guy.
Are there any 40-50 ish guys in the neighboring area - that may ne a little "slow
that live with their parents? Or visit frequently? Any houses for sale in the area or vacant - any bomb shelters in that fine area of Tucson?

I hope this is the breakthru they need someone should recognize this guy -

Let it be the answer

JMO
I agree....the way he bent over, he looks more middle aged, like he may have had an injury to that leg at one time. And...that backpack was soooo stuffed - like a blanket.
 
  • #18,329
There is definitely something very reflective in his mouth, could be a metal or diamond tooth. Its not bright enough to be a flashlight.
Looks like a penlight to me.
 
  • #18,330
another weirdo with huge crazy Kohberger eyes! mOO
'Cause you'd have to have some element of mental illness to commit these acts.
 
  • #18,331
There is definitely something very reflective in his mouth, could be a metal or diamond tooth. Its not bright enough to be a flashlight.
braces? Would that be possible?
 
  • #18,332
Eyes look similar to the guy who sent the fake ransom note! Also-could it be a knife rather than a gun?
 
  • #18,333
From the video Kash Patel posted of the suspect approaching the front door (screen grab below is from the video linked above), it looks like he approaches from the right side of the house (closest to the garage).

I wonder if he may have disabled the cameras first and then moved his vehicle in front of the porch before entering the home. MOO.

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  • #18,334
that is not the case at all. It was ordered for a live streamer out front. He found the person. What is bad is that he walked right up to the door
I wasn’t saying who it was for; I was pointing out that people are just walking right up to the house.
 
  • #18,335
There is definitely something very reflective in his mouth, could be a metal or diamond tooth. Its not bright enough to be a flashlight.

it is a flashlight. there are multiple shots in the videos where you can see it's being turn on and off. and it's way too bright to be a grill or anything like that.

i think it's possible that the backpack had LED safety lights on it as well, not just reflective strips.
 
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LE at AG's home now - source Fox news, watching live. MOO

ETA/EDIT.
Clarification on LE
Now being reported LE is at a house two doors down (not sure if 2 doors down from NG or AG)
 
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Would reflective strips be helpful if working with a partner, to be able to see each other in the dark?

I wonder if someone was behind the house while this guy was in front?

jmo
 
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If you live in an open carry, no permit state, you see lots of scary gun positions.
That is very true. The way this gun is situated it would be a good way to lose the family jewels. Not saying that would necessarily be a bad thing considering what it appears he may have done.
 
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He was not there to steal. Went with an already full backpack and nothing was reported missing from the home that I recall. He went there for NG because he was looking for someone who was connected enough to someone who would pay a ransom. Family stalled on ransom. (starting last week). Meanwhile, he had already murderd NG or she died. I still maintain this was a crazed stalker of SG. jmo Just now..LE seen going into AG's home.

that's where I am on this. The segments of Savannah with her mother Nancy on network TV for all to see was his inspiration to to find Nancy, case the joint then abduct her and ask for random. Only he did not know how to contact the family directly so he chose the media outlets.
 
  • #18,340
Thanks for the closeup pic !

Real moustache, or a fake, though.
What does everyone think ?
How scary in hindsight.
It's like looking at a picture of the devil himself.
Imo.
Here's my $0.02.

Neatly trimmed moustache
Distinctive lips
Sturdy build, but fit
Large head
Looks like he may lean forward somewhat when walking
 
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