AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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It would be pretty easy for the cops to bring the device to any suspected location of NG to see if it connects. JMO
The device has to be within a few feet of the pacemaker to connect. By then, you would have seen Nancy.
 
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No one can track a pacemaker. It doesn't ping off of anything. It's only job is to collect info from the heart and transmit to doctor. Transmitting device was left at her home.
I wouldn’t be so sure. If ithe pacemaker transmits through Bluetooth (likely), it could be advertising, which a local scanner could pick up.

Remote detection? No. Within maybe 50 or so feet? Very possibly.
 
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No one finds it strange that someone ordered pizza to Nancy's house? And the guy who delivered it looks identical to the footage? Same walk and everything? He also bypassed security and press to walk up to door? Obviously it's likely he's innocent, but it would be crazy to just overlook it.
Suspects always return to the scene, and most of them insert themselves into the investigation, some get interviewed and others will attend search parties. Did anyone question if he was a legitimate dominos delivery driver?

the link of him walking:
Some moronic fan of one of the “reporters” there. His fans are as distasteful as he is.
 
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No one can track a pacemaker. It doesn't ping off of anything. It's only job is to collect info from the heart and transmit to doctor. Transmitting device was left at her home.
Not exactly true it does send other signals. I wouldn't say Noone, id say its not typical. Im not saying it can be tracked like GPS, but there are ways to communicate with it. Its been done in a lab setting. Ive only studied it in a research class for cybersecurity. There are software and hardware updates that send to it, so it does communicate.
 
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A YouTuber (JLR) that someone posted ~400 pages ago on this forum and was asked not to post, lol.
I read about him afterwards and he is not a cool sounding guy. But….he’s there.

Can edit the name out if anyone wants me to, am new and learning ropes.
Oh yeah, even I know he's not an approved source, but I only learned that from this thread a few days ago! Is it worth watching? A live feed is a live feed, although it might be responsible on his part.
 
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My husband said "oh, and there's the car...", and at one point the person looks back that way so, possibly, being told to hurry by a driver?
I agree that seems to be some kind of vehicle. I've been wondering if the perps had used something like a Kubota, Polaris or all-terrain. The profile of what we see in photo doesn't familiar. A Kubota or Polaris or similar would allow off road / sand traverse if needed.

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Fox reporting less than $300 bucks in bitcoin wallet
Could be a test deposit (which sometimes happens before making a big deposit to confirm the adres of the wallet) or a trace deposit (maybe tracing a deposit notification, maybe see connection to a crypto exchange)
Idk - jmo
 
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I’m thinking the $300 was a setup by FBI? Could a bitcoin account holder see a deposit amount without logging in?
 
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Would the bitcoin account holder have to withdraw/move said amount to a different account in order for LE to be able to trace it, or is the act of them depositing some enough?
They would have to move it, access it, typically. But, FBI has very advanced capabilities.
 
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I wouldn’t be so sure. If ithe pacemaker transmits through Bluetooth (likely), it could be advertising, which a local scanner could pick up.

Remote detection? No. Within maybe 50 or so feet? Very possibly.
From my experience with the people I've cared for over the years, most Pacemaker/Defibs have a radius around 25 ft to 100 ft varies on the device, but the data doesn't transmit unless the Pacemaker/Defib is around the radius of the connected device.
 
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I mean, if they think the person is from Tucson and holding her in Tucson, couldn't they even drive around with her phone or whatever collects the pacemaker information and try to get a ping? Especially if they have a narrow-ish radius? (I realize this may be a really dumb idea!)
Device has to be within a few feet to connect to pacemaker.
 
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Backpack looks like that of what a school kid would wear- like maybe highschooler. No one takes the time to remove a doorbell camera unless it was to coverup an earlier crime in which time was not of essence. So many other entry points to the house. This case is bizarre and sadly, I don't think NG died at her home nor was removed from home against her will. I think she died 1/31/26...after the last know proof of life which is with Uber driver who simply dropped her off. No concrete proof revealed to public that NG returned home. NG had bedtime routine, so unless there's proof of her routine and that she went to bed, I think her death was on 1/31/26. I think it was a financially driven.
 
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$300 is only about 5100 Mexican pesos. Not that that means anything here...

Apologies. Not meant to be insensitive. Just thought it would be funny if someone in LE was messing with this clown.

JMO.
 
  • #19,496
Such a strange case. All of this searching around Annie’s house along with the photos in her garage the other night logically makes one think they suspect her/SIL or someone very close to them. But with the footage released today I can’t stop thinking how easy it would be to verify who it was if they already had an idea of who it was. Like if that was the SIL in the video, I’d expect there to be an arrest by now
 
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No one finds it strange that someone ordered pizza to Nancy's house? And the guy who delivered it looks identical to the footage? Same walk and everything? He also bypassed security and press to walk up to door? Obviously it's likely he's innocent, but it would be crazy to just overlook it.
Suspects always return to the scene, and most of them insert themselves into the investigation, some get interviewed and others will attend search parties. Did anyone question if he was a legitimate dominos delivery driver?

the link of him walking:
no, someone ordered pizza for one of the "boots on the ground" reporters. The reporter is not allowed to be posted on this forum and questionable at best, from what I understand. That being said, the reporter was unaware someone ordered pizza for him. One of his fans just put in NG's address for the pizza delivery.
 
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No one finds it strange that someone ordered pizza to Nancy's house? And the guy who delivered it looks identical to the footage? Same walk and everything? He also bypassed security and press to walk up to door? Obviously it's likely he's innocent, but it would be crazy to just overlook it.
Suspects always return to the scene, and most of them insert themselves into the investigation, some get interviewed and others will attend search parties. Did anyone question if he was a legitimate dominos delivery driver?

the link of him walking:
The pizza guy looks older and chunkier than the guy in the surveillance videos. Let's not bring random pizza delivery people into this.

JMO
 
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$300 is an odd amount for a test transaction... I've never tested a transfer with more than $5, but I guess I'm in a different tax bracket than anyone involved here!
 

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