AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Irmese]

I think they broke in the back door and removed her through the front door because of her mobility problems.

She walked in through the garage door. I think they went out through the front door because there was a car pulled up in front.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Wondering if anyone can think of a case where hiring a private investigator helped more than it added to the confusion.
I really can't think of any off the top of my head.

Like massguy said PIs are usually brought in and useful for cold cases. And if you keep a rather loose definition of private investigator there have been many cases solved by armchair sleuths and other non-LE people

Not being on the inside of this case I still feel strongly it’s not even close to being cold. It’s only been a bit over a week which is basically hardly any time at all when it comes to resolving cases

moo

 

[pulchra73]

You didn’t ask me, but I’ll butt in.

It’s possible that a latex glove could be left by the roadside by some sort first responder. Here in NYC, officers wear latex gloves sometimes when handling a suspect or evidence. They wore purple latex gloves during an incident I witnessed yesterday. (I can provide a photo if anyone wants proof that they wear disposable gloves.)


EMT/paramedics go wear them for all calls, and don’t always worry about where they land when there’s an emergency. A family member is a paramedic and always has some a bunch of them in a pocket, and they respond to roadside events regularly.

It’s possible that “Lantana Man” had to stop the car and get out for some reason; maybe to change license plates or check something on the outside of the car?

I’d be curious to know which side of the road it was on!

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021705071940010477

 

[SMK777]

you'd think not, but then again did we all not just watch another big profile case where the suspect drove his own car to the murder and left a sheath?

True!

 

[HoveringWombats]

I've seen a photo of the perp without gun and no backpack and no jacket. I've searched and searched and can't find that photo.

Are you thinking of the second photo in this set?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

Editing to add the photo, since it didn't expand, but the source is the link above (posted by the FBI Director; official source):

 

[PCHS]

I do think that's a real possibility, yes.

I think this a reasonable possibility esp since they have it appears given them full access to come/go & do whatever

 

[Chimera]

No, his MIL was telling the reporter that the FBI or someone had told her that her son-in-law's eyes looked like the guy they were after. MIL is not the one who ever said that, she said the photo of the suspect did not look like her SIL at all. She wanted to show a photo of her SIL to the reporter (because he was being interviewed by investigators at the moment and not doing camera interviews yet), but couldn't because the FBI had taken her phone. She also said the FBI had gotten a tip that Nancy was in her house. She was clearly upset and was like they can look anywhere, we don't have anything to hide.

Bbm.
Ok, thanks for clarifying !!
So either the FBI or someone else had misinformation, then ?

Question : Do you think that was the sole reason the fbi/LE were interested in him, or was there anything else ?
Seems like a wild goose chase and would surmise the fbi are not going to go only by someone's opinion.
Jmo.

 

[LarryLujack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021705071940010477

It's literally on the side of the road, lol. How would that not have been seen earlier? Someone trolling LE.

 

[tomatotraveler]

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think they've got nothing to go on, save for the doorbell footage.

 

[fridaybaker]

This page is worth checking out. Need to read through all the comments as well. There’s only a few posts relating to NG.

The Midwest Pundit | St. Louis MO

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Thanks for this. I don't know. If there was an unplanned "altercation", or other such event that led to NG's death, why remove the body?
Also, if this is the case, can we assume that the man on the porch in the video had entered the place somewhere else and, at this point, he was simply trying to figure out if the best way to extract her was via the front door? I don't know. That doesn't really work in my book. However, if he's there to "frighten" NG, and approaching the front door to do so, why the back pack? And why the layers? Everyone seems to agree that he's double gloved. Why would he do that if he's only there to frighten her? Hmmm.

 

[PCHS]

Funny enough I actually do believe the second one, or at least a less organised version of it.

I think that is less logical or reasonable. We are dealing with people here who presumably just had something awful and sudden happen - possible? sure but it seems less likely then things are as they appear...masked disguised person targeted old lady who lived alone and appeared to have money....

 

[Vaderman]

Exclusive | How Bitcoin exchange gave authorities’ ‘control’ over Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper: crypto expert

“They are now the target of forensic tracking,” CEO of Lionsgate Network Bezalel Eithan Raviv said of the suspect.

pagesix.com

Authorities now have the upper hand against Nancy Guthrie’s purported kidnapper, according to a cryptocurrency expert.

Bezalel Eithan Raviv, the CEO and founder of Lionsgate Network — a crypto recovery service with expertise in Blockchain forensics — spoke with Page Six after a deposit was made into a Bitcoin wallet related to Guthrie’s ransom note late Tuesday.

“If the reported $150 transaction to the alleged ransom Bitcoin wallet is accurate, it aligns with a known investigative tactic,” Raviv said. “A small ‘test’ transfer can sometimes be used to confirm that the wallet is active and to trigger blockchain monitoring tools.”

The Israeli tech entrepreneur noted that, despite misconceptions, Bitcoin is “not anonymous” and is very much traceable.

 

[Assassino]

I think the lack of communication and proof is because NG did not survive long after being taken, and he's panicking.

I think unfortunately that is very possible. I think had Nancy either died or been gravely injured at her home, then the intruder likely would have just left her there and fled.... especially if the intruder was a stranger. Why drive around with a dead or injured victim in your car and assume that risk. The effort and risk it takes to either keep someone injured alive or hide a body if she had died is too great.

However, if she was kidnapped and then once they arrived at a location something terrible happened to her there. Maybe all the stress caused some type of a cardiac episode where she died or something, which is entirely possible at her age. Then that would be a different story. And then the kidnapper wouldn't have a choice but to do try and stall and not provide proof of life. I'm hoping for the best though still. Until we find a body, I'll keep hope alive that she's still ok.

 

[Friday Fan]

My mother's house has a door similar to that. It has the bars and glass, so you cannot reach through. I doubt she opened this door. So, either he came to disable the camera before using the door, or someone else let him in, not NG. I don't know where I saw it mentioned that NG came in through the garage, but what if someone who had been in the house knew that she always uses the garage door and that person unlocked the front door? She likely would have expected it to be locked and didn't check it before going to bed. My mother never used the front door, but occasionally, one of the kids would open it and it would have remained unlocked. She never thought about checking it, but then she left the back door unlocked while she was gone. It used to drive me a little crazy.

I was thinking maybe someone inpersonated a police officer and somehow got her to crack open the door. At this point we just don't know how they got in.

 

[raja]

Oh no not another black glove…if it doesn’t fit you must acquit. Just a little leviaty. But seriously I’m hoping something comes from the glove.

 

[Nikynoo]

I don't know, but it's interesting they hired their own given that most of law enforcement in country is already working on this. i don't understand any of this.

I think the family has lost faith in LE.

 

[connie9030]

I really hope I'm wrong, but I think they've got nothing to go on, save for the doorbell footage.

 

[oc1234]

I've seen a photo of the perp without gun and no backpack and no jacket. I've searched and searched and can't find that photo.

its on the FBI's website just google FBI Nancy G... their website comes up

 

[Friday Fan]

Exclusive | How Bitcoin exchange gave authorities’ ‘control’ over Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper: crypto expert

“They are now the target of forensic tracking,” CEO of Lionsgate Network Bezalel Eithan Raviv said of the suspect.

pagesix.com

Authorities now have the upper hand against Nancy Guthrie’s purported kidnapper, according to a cryptocurrency expert.

Bezalel Eithan Raviv, the CEO and founder of Lionsgate Network — a crypto recovery service with expertise in Blockchain forensics — spoke with Page Six after a deposit was made into a Bitcoin wallet related to Guthrie’s ransom note late Tuesday.

“If the reported $150 transaction to the alleged ransom Bitcoin wallet is accurate, it aligns with a known investigative tactic,” Raviv said. “A small ‘test’ transfer can sometimes be used to confirm that the wallet is active and to trigger blockchain monitoring tools.”

The Israeli tech entrepreneur noted that, despite misconceptions, Bitcoin is “not anonymous” and is very much traceable.

It should say, they have an upper hand on the extortioners.....

 

[connie9030]

That doorbell video is a treasure-trove of evidence.