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Problem with saying the truck is "gray" is that the porch cam video is black and white/gray scale. I'm in the graphic arts field and would expect this truck to be almost be any mid-tone. Silver, light green, copper, light blue, etc., would appear as gray when file is not in color. MOO.
I doubt the tip is from the Nest cam
 
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I listened to a few of Megyn Kelly's podcasts last night and she said:

1. AG's neighbors were asked about a phone

2. AG's neighbors said they were repeatedly asked about what kind of people AG and SIL were.
It seems like LE doesn't have enough evidence to label them as suspects but they don't have enough evidence to rule them out. I wonder if there was an inconsistency in their version of events or LE can't verify their alibis. Interesting.
 
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Odd how they just seem to appear in the front, just to the right of the stairs. They also seem to go out to the street. Also, noted that they are more visible from drone cam than eye level. Makes me wonder if they were even documented.View attachment 644566
Do we know when this photo was taken? If not early, could be marks created by a reporter’s crew moving equipment on scene and have no relevance to the crime at all.
 
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I'm not sure how reliable or relevant this is, but a quick search of the term "Can you trace bitcoin" on Google Trends shows that there was a hit, in Arizona, on the 20th January. Over the last 30 days there were hits for the same search term in only 6 of the 50 states in the USA. The only search that appeared prior to NG's disappearance? The one in Arizona.

Apologies of this has been posted previously, or can be easily debunked, I just thought it was interesting.
 

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What is he doing with his other hand? Does the nest have a light that shines and that's what he is blocking?
He's trying to make sure the gun doesn't fall out. The holster is too big for the gun.
moo
 
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Why is the reporter saying the pool cleaning is a strange development? It's not. I live in the Southwest and everyone has weekly yard/pool services. Algae builds up quickly in hot weather areas, so pools have to be regularly treated and cleaned.
 
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TMZ said the time of this video is 2:12 a.m.
Obviously it wasn't physically removed from the bracket until after 2:12 a.m. when this video was captured.
2:12 a.m. is when a sensor captured something/someone. LE didn't mention a camera capturing anything or anyone except at 2:12 a.m. so that leads me to believe the disconnection was from wires cut or via a phone app.
See, that's what's confusing me.

It doesn't make sense to me that the front door Nest camera was truly disconnected at 01:47 but then captures and transmits footage of the suspect at 02:12. If the camera was disconnected from the WiFi, it couldn't send the footage we've all seen. Was it reconnected at some point before it was removed from the property? I can't see why.

If the power was shut off for the entire house, that would likely include any wireless routers. If that had happened at 01:47, the camera would not be able to upload footage at 02:12.

If what's being reported is correct - and not just misinterpretation - then "disconnection" of the doorbell camera could mean something other than WiFi disconnection (we now know it wasn't yet the physical disconnection).

Perhaps the suspect thought that if they digitally removed/deregistered the camera on Nancy's phone that it would prevent the camera from uploading. Hence, the suspect's surprise that it was seemingly still active.

They seem to be on the fence as to whether to be truly worried about the camera capturing them. They kind of cover it up but do a terrible job. Almost like they're pretty sure they disconnected it, but just to make sure, they monkey around with it and then remove and deactivate it.

Perhaps they didn't realize that the footage doesn't just go: Camera -> WiFi -> Phone

But also: Camera -> WiFi/Internet -> Nest Backend (even without a subscription, apparently!)

Just a thought, absent of more info.
 
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Mobile Tool Storage Caddy
A dolly. This one has extra hooks, rings for storage.
Yes, dolly marks are a good guess. It could leave grooves like that

JMO
 
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I saw this news report as well. I’m confused to why there aren’t more reports about this gray truck. Maybe because they only want to hear from locals, and avoid too many non relevant tips of gray trucks.

I lived in Northern VA during the DC Sniper time period, and the “white box truck” blew up in the news. (And perps never drove a white box truck. They are common enough that they just happened to be present at all or most of the crime scenes.)
not that nearby and I was seeing white box trucks and fearing them anyway
 
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Her DNA was recovered in her home but they can't say if it was blood. Why not? I hope and pray she wasn't s*xually assaulted.

I think we can infer that blood is at least one of the DNA sources from inside the home, because it isn't likely that she just started bleeding when she went out the door.

JMO.
 
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Her DNA was recovered in her home but they can't say if it was blood. Why not? I hope and pray she wasn't s*xually assaulted.
Maybe it is not that they are unable ,but that they don't want to divulge that information to the public.
 
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It really is amazing how much information about you is available in a five minute search on the internet. I found my address, phone number, the exact layout of our home, who lives at the address, previous addresses, my professional credentials.

This is just by putting in my name on Google. Sort of scary really.
 
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I think we can infer that blood is at least one of the DNA sources from inside the home, because it isn't likely that she just started bleeding when she went out the door.

JMO.
Maybe she tried to scream as she walked out the door, and the perpetrator hit her in the mouth/nose. JMO
 
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I think we can infer that blood is at least one of the DNA sources from inside the home, because it isn't likely that she just started bleeding when she went out the door.

JMO.

That makes total sense but why can't he just say it? He said blood was on the porch. I mean we all saw it because of BE but I digress.
 
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Why is the reporter saying the pool cleaning is a strange development? It's not. I live in the Southwest and everyone has weekly yard/pool services. Algae builds up quickly in hot weather areas, so pools have to be regularly treated and cleaned.
But why release the scene again? What if something develops and it becomes important, now its cleaned? Good grief, keystone cops.
 
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I think it might be paywalled in the USA and maybe other countries, but free to access from the UK? (and possibly other places too, IDK!)

edit: or like someone says below, they lure you in with some freebies, like Dr Nick O’Teen, but personally, I’ve never had any problems reading Daily Beast articles here in the UK.

Did NG have a safe in the house and its tracks from dolly wheels? My daughter has one that could be moved that way.
I have been wondering about a safe since the start. I have not seen any reports of a safe-but you made a good observation about the driveway tracks.
 

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