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because I just realized i cropped the prices, for reference these were like $22-$28~

so a very cheap discardable get
FWIW, for all the supposed cheap items used by the person in the video, I did not get the impression that he was a person living on the street- no holes in clothing, no obvious stains, hair cut, normal weight, etc. FWIW
 
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Her DNA was recovered in her home but they can't say if it was blood. Why not? I hope and pray she wasn't s*xually assaulted.
😢. I hope the stuff in the backpack wasn’t camera and/or video equipment. 😳. Praying it was not. 🙏🙏
 
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FWIW, for all the supposed cheap items used by the person in the video, I did not get the impression that he was a person living on the street- no holes in clothing, no obvious stains, hair cut, normal weight, etc. FWIW
not at all - and definitely NOT what i'm suggesting.
 
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Yeah, this is a guy who's had a lot of local criticism and scandals (including a Federal one) PRIOR to this case. Seems a lot of his dept. hates his guts.

And even PRIOR to knowing this I thought he was a P.R. nightmare with his interviews, press conferences, and handling of this case.
You are correct. You are absolutely correct.
 
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Multiple awards but certainly made very little money from the poetry or music ventures. Her jewellery business has been described invariably as a hobby or a part time business so that doesn't sound like a big money maker either.
So you suspect her of killing her mother because she's not as wealthy as her sibling?
 
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There is so much noise in this case, it is getting annoying.

We need Nancy back.
 
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Pima County Sheriff on theories a Gutherie family member is involved:“The family has been fully, 100% completely, whatever we asked for they’ve done.” "You can’t accuse people of a horrific crime like that and not have any facts behind it.’

But in the same interview the Sheriff did tell me so far no one has been officially or at least publicly ruled out.


I thought he previously said they cleared the Rio Rico guy and the uber driver?
 
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AG took much of her social media and websites down or made them private so its tough to find but I did read some of it a few weeks back and it was very morbid.
"morbid" is subjective. And to be fair, there are tons of horror writers, bands with musical lyrics that are not really family friendly, etc but they don't act on anything they write about or sing about. It's about creativity and imagination, IMO from what I know. So just because something might appear morbid or something does not give indications necessarily of neferious intentions IMO>
 
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First, apologies if this has already been posted. (At work, sneaking on here to get this posted!). It is video from TMZ (who else) from a security camera that was taken 8 days before her disappearance from the front porch of a house 6.5 miles away from her home. Link here:

In it, the man is ducking and perhaps hiding (?) behind a pillar. Either way, acting odd would be a fair description. TMZ opted to blur his face but he has a goatee and mustache which the man in Nancy's footage appeared to also have. So some similarities that are both hopeful and awful.

My heart just hurts with each update/potential new lead.

Praying every day for her. As always, everything is MOO.
 
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I have been saying since day one with little to no response, here. This is a celebrity stalker. The perp is obsessed with SG., may watch her daily on NBC. Thinks everything she says has a specific and "coded" message to him. He may have contacted her through Instagram, NBC or other apps. Never received an answer. He is delusional. Thinks SG is his girlfriend. May even tell a person or 2 that he is having a clandestine relationship with SG.IMO



He is probably marginalized. Socially awkward Starved for attention.. He may have traveled some distance to get to Arizona because SG was not on TV because she had surgery and he became restless and needed to see her. He wants SG. He decided the next best thing was NG. He went to the home for a souvenir. A photo, a piece of lingerie, SG may have left there. He is frustrated. His obsession is not satisfied. He takes NG.



He is tied to the ransom note. He is possibly the author of the ransom letters. He sent it to TMZ because that is a very entertainment based network program. Second choice was local stations to maximize coverage.



As for his attire. I own Gucci..I also own inexpensive pocketbooks. A 10 dollar handbag and a 1000 dollar Gucci bag serve the same function. Either one can carry my wallet, makeup and glasses. There is no such thing as KIDNAPPER COUTURE. Same with the backpack. Ditto on a makeshift holster, imo.



This crime was planned by a delusional, "FAN" who thinks he is being ignored. They are looking at old doorbell camera video, IMO, to see if he was scoping out the neighborhood before he struck.MOO
 
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I assumed Nancy was kidnapped for ransom. But as far as we know, no monies have changed hands. I thought LE said at the beginning that there was no crime scene in the home, except for the blood at the front door. But now they are saying there was a crime scene inside? I am getting so confused.
In my opinion, it sounds like this was an intruder planning a rape. I don’t understand why he would remove her body though. That sounds like a bit of a stretch. I haven’t heard of that before. I wouldn’t think a rapist would be smart enough to think off not leaving DNA. Come to think of it, It would have taken him a long time to undress out of his outfit and get out of there is twenty minutes time.
Maybe this whole crime was about a grudge against a family member. I am perplexed.
 
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The thing is though, when you're making 60k and your sister is making $8 million, you're most definitely going to feel like the poor relation. It would take a really big person not to feel some level of resentment or jealousy.
According to Indeed, the school where he works pays on average 14% less than the national average.


Not that it makes him a criminal, it's just that I thought it was interesting considering it is supposed to be a really good school.
 

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Before they said goodbye on the afternoon of Jan. 30, Ms. Guthrie checked with one of the players, Anne Burnson, making sure that they were still on to watch church at a friend’s house on Sunday. Their ritual was to gather in the friend’s den and watch a recording of the Manhattan service that Ms. Guthrie’s youngest child, the NBC host Savannah Guthrie, had attended earlier that morning. They even had wafers and grape juice on hand for communion.

But Nancy Guthrie, always punctual, did not arrive at 11 a.m. on Feb. 1. Her friends texted, then called. They contacted Ms. Guthrie’s older daughter, Annie, who rushed to Ms. Guthrie’s home. It was empty.

Now, nearly two weeks after Ms. Guthrie’s disappearance, which the authorities have said they are investigating as an abduction, her friends and family say they are refusing to give up hope of finding her alive.

With the search for Ms. Guthrie in its 13th day, her closest friends — some speaking publicly for the first time — are trying to avoid fixating on the ominous details. They know about the blood found on her doorstep, the masked figure with a pistol caught on her doorbell camera, the discarded black gloves found by investigators scouring the desert.

“I keep thinking about every time I’d go in the kitchen door, and she’d be sitting there at the counter, just how her eyes would always light up as soon as she saw me,” said Ms. Burnson, who has been friends with Ms. Guthrie for 42 years. “That’s when you know you have a real friend.”


Nice article.

I note it said NG used “powerful hearing aids”.

So, if she took them out to sleep, she may not have heard intruders outside, possibly.

moo
 
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