AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoveringWombats]

I have plenty of cameras around my home but it's set back a couple hundred feet from the road. We had a string of burglaries in my neighborhood (very similar to NGs, wooded and no street lights, multi acre lots) and despite all the houses with lots of security cams no one could get a car.

My house is only about twenty feet from the street (a normal suburban street with a handful of street lights) and even here, it's often hard to discern the make, model, and color of a car that goes by at night. Low light is tough for any camera, distance makes it worse, and these consumer security cameras are not that great to begin with. I'd be more surprised if they did have clear images of the car than if they didn't. JMO and experience.

 

[Diddian]

As far as i could find info on this;

a standard medical implantable pacemaker does not have its own IP address. They use low-power, short-range radio frequencies (around 400 MHz) to transmit data to a nearby bedside monitor or smartphone app. These home monitors, not the pacemaker itself, then connect to the internet.

I have no inside knowledge on pacemakers and her specific type she uses ofc so all of this is just googled

I just googled too and it sounds like you are right; however, if someone had a compatible monitor, they could use that monitor to transmit information from a missing person's pacemaker.

So it sounds like, if this is truly a kidnapping for ransom and those holding NG were able to get their hands on a compatible monitor, then NG's pacemaker could be used to provide "proof of life."

Should authorities release information about what are compatible monitors?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adairalandry/2026/02/06/what-a-pacemaker-can-and-cant-tell-about-a-missing-person/

 

[VioletBoxcar]

So the pacemaker does not have a unique signature. What if multiple people with pacemakers are playing bridge? How does the monitor handle that? What about assisted living facilities?

They have their own serial number that is used to link with the phone app

 

[keek]

If TMZ pays themselves, they might not get follow up ransom demands they can post and broadcast, and then how would they get their clicks?

I believe to pay the ransom is up to the family. IMO

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

TMZ Receives Third Email in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping, Demanding Higher Reward

TMZ just received a third email from the man who claims he knows the identity of Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper ... and he has upped his price.

www.tmz.com

Just your regular afternoon TMZ report. 3rd email from the guy that wants the Bitcoin to rat out kidnapper.

This guy says that the FBI raising the reward was to discredit him.

He now wants $100,000. $50,000 in bitcoin & the other 50 also in bitcoin later. Pls read article for details.

Article also says he will give up name of main individual which likely implies multiple individuals are involved.

**Edit to correct error. Sorry. Multitasking**

 

[The OG]

I have no idea, i'm not familiar with pacemakers or do not have anyone in my immediate surroundings with one
I can only assume they have a unique id number which connects to their own device. Like a modem in a house, you need to log in with a password to connect

In a world with universal remote controls, I feel like we have the technology to devise an ad hoc pacemaker detector.

 

[investigatoroffacts]

I read that comment as being 'tongue in cheek' dry kinda humour... I didn't read it as them considering starting a

You are correct, I am not currently setting up a . It was more of a ‘let’s test the theory and rule out the hoax factor’ comment…not my official transition into ransom fundraising.

 

[Jenny9]

I buy it. I wouldn't say it's likely or feasible. Yet at the same time, no other theories really make sense either, and the way this case has been dripping out information, ransom notes, involving TMZ, the head of the FBI in town (yes I know, they said his trip was pre-planned), and the timing of the E file drop, congressional hearings.... I am no conspiracy theorist. But the way this case has taken over the media at the expense of all the insane everything else right now, is hard to ignore. I don't think it's some big coordinated plan. I do think there are crazy nuts out there who act for reasons we don't know or understand. That said, if you told me it was some random person who once did work on the house, I could just as easily believe that too.

Brian Entin has a post on his twitter (X) today, asking what questions people have about the case. Someone posted the blue shirt shown near the front door (the same one posted in some media videos in this thread) and in a photo of Nancy that has been widely distributed. (It's literally the wikipedia photo.) Interested to see if that has an answer and if that was Nancy's shirt.

Where was the blue shirt found?

 

[louvillian08]

No denial! Speaks louder than words.

He said “no one is ever really ruled out.” Then he said it’s “crazy” the allegations about the family and they’ve been 100% cooperative and helpful. What more can he possibly say?

 

[HoveringWombats]

The pacemaker is bluetooth, so has an IP address, correct? And it has a battery that lasts for many years. Could Elon Musk utilize StarLink to drill down to the approximate current geolocation of that IP address? (And now you all know how little I know about all that stuff...).

I will decline to comment on Elon, but Bluetooth does not use IP, so no, a Bluetooth device does not have an IP address (there are some exceptions, but it's not a core part of Bluetooth). And Bluetooth is a completely different technology and set of protocols than Starlink uses, so I can't imagine any way this could work. MOO

 

[birdbox]

Let's keep our hopes up that this weekend is the weekend we have a breakthrough and sweet NG comes home one way or another. We all have to keep things light, helpful and cheerful. There could be relatives and friends who come to this forum to seek ideas. Let's be the light in the dark!!

 

[osu]

TMZ just received a third email from the man claiming he knows the identity of Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper and this time, he’s demanding even more money.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022422590015574326

 

[OldCop]

does anyone think this is an Israel Keyes type dude with his little flash light? I don't know..he's just so weird. mOO

The mouth flashlight makes me think of someone who works in some kind of trade. Tradesmen stick small flashlights in their mouths all the time so they can use both hands while working in a dark or shadowy area. For example, think plumber under a cabinet or electrician in a dark attic.
As a matter of fact, I’m thinking our suspect may regularly carry one in his pocket as opposed to going out and purchasing one as part of his kit for this crime. He made some poor clothing and backpack choices.
Would he really think, “Oh, I should put a mouth flashlight on my list, too.”?

 

[TwoBlueJays]

I don’t know what finances the family has. We can assume SG has a few million.
We do not know if CG or AG have a lot of money so how do you think they would get “millions”? I believe it takes 7 years to declare someone deceased without a body and even then, they would split any monies Mom may have had. So why would anyone have to “act” innocent? I’m not following your thought process.

If a family member killed their mother for money, do you think they could maintain innocence at family gatherings. That's one hell of a pokerface.

 

[maskedwoman]

Apologies if this was already posted. Othram's co-founder is very unhappy with Nanos choice to send the evidence to Florida. Her reason is that this lab consumes evidence to produce the same results that Quantico's lab does much faster with method that does not destroy the evidence. Not good.

Genealogy company exec slams Pima sheriff's 'devastating' move to ship Nancy Guthrie evidence to Florida lab

DNA testing company Othram slams Pima County Sheriff for sending Nancy Guthrie case evidence to Florida lab instead of FBI, calling decision "devastating."

www.foxnews.com

 

[maskedwoman]

If a family member killed their mother for money, do you think they could maintain innocence at family gatherings. That's one hell of a pokerface.

Depending on the person, yes. There are fathers who have murdered their wives and raised their children until they were arrested.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I posted this question yesterday in post #24645. My thought was a pacemakers phone app belonging to a missing person could be cloned and pushed to searchers phones, even if the sync distance was only 30 to 40 feet, it might be a tool to be used when searchers were walking areas looking for a missing person who could not answer or hear their name being called. Might not be of any use in this situation but could possibly become an enhancement for future searches of any missing person.

This is genius - They have Nancys phone, so they could take it on a search and see if it connects. Even if she is sadly deceased, the pacemaker will still be active.

 

[Laura Avery]

The mouth flashlight makes me think of someone who works in some kind of trade. Tradesmen stick small flashlights in their mouths all the time so they can use both hands while working in a dark or shadowy area. For example, think plumber under a cabinet or electrician in a dark attic.
As a matter of fact, I’m thinking our suspect may regularly carry one in his pocket as opposed to going out and purchasing one as part of his kit for this crime. He made some poor clothing and backpack choices.
Would he really think, “Oh, I should put a mouth flashlight on my list, too.”?

Like people wire in security cameras.

 

[osu]

Savannah Guthrie DISMISSES bungling sheriff from search for her missing mom after they failed to drum up any leads

Savannah Guthrie DISMISSES sheriff from search for her missing mom

 

[VenturaJen]

So the pacemaker does not have a unique signature. What if multiple people with pacemakers are playing bridge? How does the monitor handle that? What about assisted living facilities?

From my understanding, each pacemaker has a serial number and that is encrypted to a Bluetooth monitoring device. But the device itself does not have an IP address, only the monitor. The monitor only receives from its specific paired pacemaker which has its own encryption.