AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[white rabbit]

Where did you get this info if i may ask?

fox news just reported it, live. my post # 27,004. (larrylujack must've seen it the same time i did).

 

[citizen_sleuth]

“cooperative and cleared are two different things”

That’s a very loaded response imo

I interpreted this statement as Nanos being (appropriately, IMO) cautious of stating anything conclusively when realistically it is probably not possible to “clear” the family of involvement. Their DNA will almost certainly be at the scene since they are family members and AG/TC were the last known people to see NG. Plus, since the kidnapping likely happened around 2am, it’s unlikely they would be able supply an alibi. I personally don’t think the family was involved in NG’s abduction (although I was leaning in that direction earlier on), but I understand why the sheriff is not “clearing” them at this time. JMO.

 

[LarryLujack]

Where did you get this info if i may ask?

Was just breaking news on FOX...

 

[LRinCA]

Interesting interview with Katie Couric. Former FBI agent says video looks staged. Lots of good points. Former FBI Agent Tells Katie Couric That Nancy Guthrie Security Footage Looks ‘Staged’

From your link (really interesting, btw!):

“High-risk crimes like this are rarely spontaneous. There’s usually pre-planning: knowing the person’s patterns, whether there are cameras, the layout of the home, the method of egress,” she explained. “We almost never see a spur-of-the-moment [kidnapping], which is what it would look like if this person is an amateur. … Also, removing an 84-year-old woman with mobility issues from inside a house would be very difficult for one person. It would be very risky.”

 

[DenverToCali]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022439584072958405

 

[Sessiebo]

fox news just reported it, live. my post # 27,004. (larrylujack must've seen it the same time i did).

Ok wow i hope they catch the perp quickly. I read they dispatched 3 SWAT, not known if related to Nancy tho.
Fingers crossed

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022438243900572047

 

[Moonstrawbs]

Is it just me or is this one of the fastest, slowest moving cases? I feel like there's something all the time, but then there really isn't (or seems to be). It's so strange all ways round! Jmo.

 

[sleeptoker]

DNA found inside house not Nancy's....

Wonder what the DNA source is. I hope Nancy put up a fight.

 

[birdbox]

Fox is reporting (live, i don't have a link as i'm watching tv), that the DNA in NG's house is not NG's.

so...forced entry/no forced entry...glove/no glove...NG's dna/not NG's dna...

WTH?!!! i would never criticize LE but they're making it awfully difficult for this rabbit...

So, maybe someone broke in to her house and prior to kidnapping her performed a ritual by offering up their own DNA to the Bitcoin gods.

 

[shadowsc]

Where was the blue shirt found?

What appears to be a blue shirt is hyperlinked in the Fox video on my previous post. It's just sitting there in a heap on a ridge by the walkway leading up to Nancy's front door, at about the 11 second mark. I cannot find it mentioned or referenced anywhere.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021330343056507029

I have no idea if it even has any significance. For all we know, some random reporter milling about got hot and took off a piece of layering and threw it to the side. I'm not even positive it's a shirt. Is it some cloth investigators used and abandoned. The crime scene has not been secured the majority of the time, so I have no idea when that shirt looking thing got there or if it was left by anyone or if it could be Nancy's. I just find it bizarre that with thousands of posts, it has not even been questioned or mentioned. But it may be unrelated or have zero value.

 

[gbowski]

Where did you get this info if i may ask?

Reported on Foxnews

 

[Lebowski]

Yes, the pacemaker will respond to requests from the monitor at a distance of about 5-10 feet. It's important to keep limitations in mind - specifically battery. A pacemaker has an internal battery that is not rechargeable. Under normal use these batteries will last 5-7 years and the battery has to be replaced at that time. This requires a surgical procedure and often an overnight stay. Allowing a pacemaker to transmit continually or via a strong signal drains the battery much, much faster and the risk of a battery replacement procedure outweighs the benefit of continual transmission and stronger RF signals.

In the past patients would see their doctor every 3-6 months and a wand is used to collect data stored in the pacemaker. A few decades ago bedside monitors came into use to collect this data without a visit to the clinic. More recently phone apps have come into use to take over that function. These apps simply replace the interrogation wand used in the clinic so patients have fewer visits and data can be sent to the doctor more frequently, once a month instead of every 3-6 months, for example. They are definitely not designed for, or capable of, tracking or locating people. IMO

ok. if the constraint is that you have to be within 5-10 feet that's basically no advantage over searching everything the old fashioned way.

i'd been picturing the police deploying an app to officers' phones and having them all search with a large spacing and/or just passively search as they go about their business. but sounds like that won't work here.

 

[Fargo]

When a pacemaker patient visits their cardiologist, do they have to bring their monitor with them? Do providers have a way to query the device outside of the regular reporting interval?

No, you don't have to bring your monitor to the clinic. The doctor's office uses a wand that is placed over the pacemaker to gather the data. This is how it's done for patients that don't opt for remote monitors or apps. We use the same wand in the morgue to do a final interrogation of the pacemaker and to turn it off. IMO

 

[JaimeInLA]

If law enforcement suspected a family member of committing this crime, or had any convincing evidence that made a family member even a person of interest, they wouldn't be swatting and knocking down the doors of an entirely unrelated person's home 45 miles south of Tucson.

JMO.

They would if the ransom criminal and the kidnapper/murderer are two different people

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

Yes, the pacemaker will respond to requests from the monitor at a distance of about 5-10 feet. It's important to keep limitations in mind - specifically battery. A pacemaker has an internal battery that is not rechargeable. Under normal use these batteries will last 5-7 years and the battery has to be replaced at that time. This requires a surgical procedure and often an overnight stay. Allowing a pacemaker to transmit continually or via a strong signal drains the battery much, much faster and the risk of a battery replacement procedure outweighs the benefit of continual transmission and stronger RF signals.

In the past patients would see their doctor every 3-6 months and a wand is used to collect data stored in the pacemaker. A few decades ago bedside monitors came into use to collect this data without a visit to the clinic. More recently phone apps have come into use to take over that function. These apps simply replace the interrogation wand used in the clinic so patients have fewer visits and data can be sent to the doctor more frequently, once a month instead of every 3-6 months, for example. They are definitely not designed for, or capable of, tracking or locating people. IMO

Do you agree that if Nancy’s phone was brought into range of the pacemaker, it would show up on the Bluetooth, if for example, they had a tip off where to search such as a building or general area?

 

[maskedwoman]

There is no current evidence that TC is involved ... at all.

Ashley Banfield stating it is not evidence.

Do I find it strange they keep going back to AG/TC's house? YES, but again, no evidence at this time that TC is even remotely involved.

There is no *publicly known* evidence. The investigation appears to be a complete mess but, with the possible exception of Caylee Anthony's murder, there are usually some pretty surprising nuggets that come out once an arrest is made. Case in point, the dentist and his wife. LE was quiet as a mouse about the Ex, then boom.

It seems they have not been able to, or are unwilling to, clear TC. Otherwise, I feel pretty confident that LE have many better things to do than keep going back to their house.

 

[SlimPickens]

This means it didn’t match the “known contributors,” Miller said, meaning the people who have been around or inside Guthrie’s house for other reasons.

So, family members.

JMO.

 

[cady]

Wow. Good read, thanks for sharing. It does make a lot of sense. In fact, it's one of the only things about this that makes any sense. A faked attempted break-in to throw off how the crime really went down.

Interesting, but if it was staged, how would the guy know that google could reproduce it after the camera had been removed?

 

[nerosleuth]

TMZ Receives Third Email in Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping, Demanding Higher Reward

TMZ just received a third email from the man who claims he knows the identity of Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper ... and he has upped his price.

www.tmz.com

Just your regular afternoon TMZ report. 3rd email from the guy that wants the Bitcoin to rat out kidnapper.

This guy says that the FBI raising the reward was to discredit him.

He now wants $100,000. $50,000 in bitcoin & the other 50 also in bitcoin later. Pls read article for details.

Article also says he will give up name of main individual which likely implies multiple individuals are involved.

**Edit to correct error. Sorry. Multitasking**

The problem here is how does one know if it is real or not?

On one hand it could be a scammer trying to scam money and doesn't have any real information at all.

On the other hand if this person knows who is involved, it stands to reason that this person is also involved and likely participated in the home invasion and abduction too.

 

[VegasGirl35]

. I personally don’t think the family was involved in NG’s abduction (although I was leaning in that direction earlier on), but I understand why the sheriff is not “clearing” them at this time. JMO.

I agree. I don't think LE believes the family is guilty, they're just carefully hedging. On the slim chance this case is an absolute unicorn and it does turn out to be family, the Sheriff doesn't want to end up with egg on his face.