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This location is about 2 miles from Nancy’s home. They would have needed a vehicle if they took her.
Yes, I wasn't suggesting no vehicle was used, but if they were only going two miles within the residential area, that might explain why they weren't captured on business cameras on the main roads -- because they never needed to travel on those main roads. MOO
 
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Any idea where the thought that it’s an Air B&B came from? I’ve heard some mention of the possibility. It’s hard to tell what is what in this case.
I just heard it in an unofficial live stream. But my own Googling did locate a Vrbo (similar type of short-term rental) on that street (it's not a long street).
My own opinion as well is that, with the amount of amateur sleuths watching this, nothing has come out with possible POI names like they did for Rio Rico. Meaning notable occupants aren't listed on Spokeo or similar address websites online.
Just my speculation, I could be totally wrong.

I also was speculating before on the possible motive of perhaps a well-off (they are nice homes) married man with a son (from the brief/vague descriptions we've had of the people detained), which is harder to come by than perhaps someone who may have worked on her home, etc. So a rental may actually make more sense if a group of people (maybe they're not a family?) rented the home for this specific reason to commit a crime (the proximity to NG's, etc.) if this was part of a more complex operation.
 
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Something I can't get out of my head:

SG called Sen. Mark Kelly immediately after 911 was called. Why?
IMO because he is a senator there and may be able to help activate quick high level action to save her mother. If I was in that situation and could do the same, I would also I believe
 
  • #28,084
So it’s being reported a medical examiner is on scene. I’m not in the US. Is that a coroner or something different?
Yes, a medical examiner would seem to imply that a deceased person is present.

All speculation as we don’t know exactly what’s going on yet, but, yeah. 😔
 
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My hope is they found her, put her in a fed car unnoticed and she’s at a hospital somewhere being reunited with her family. ugh sending so many prayers.
 
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Something I can't get out of my head:

SG called Sen. Mark Kelly immediately after 911 was called. Why?

I did not really question this, assuming thry are friends. But now, I don’t know what to think.
 
  • #28,087
You can watch STS nation live on YouTube and they are showing Brian from News Nation. They are discussing the medical examiner being there.
 
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So it’s being reported a medical examiner is on scene. I’m not in the US. Is that a coroner or something different?
In the US a medical examiner is generally a forensic pathologist. A coroner is an official that conducts death investigations. Sometimes the coroner is a medical examiner, but not always.
 
  • #28,089
How long do you think she should have waited?
I dont know. It just is something that has stuck out in my mind. When my niece was missing, we called 911 then started calling neighbors and people who could have seen her.
 
  • #28,090
I don't think there's a body in that house. Unless in the basement..
 
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So it’s being reported a medical examiner is on scene. I’m not in the US. Is that a coroner or something different?

What if the ambulance is there for one of the suspects who unalived himself at the scene during a related traffic stop? My opinion only that NG is not there.
Ugh!
 
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I posted a crime map last night that got deleted. It shows some sketchy areas close to Nancy’s neighborhood. I had a feeling it was someone close by.
From what it appears on CNN this is still a very nice part..
 
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Same thing.
I think legally they are different but both can pronounce a body is deceased and do an exam to clear a natural from unnatural death usually
A coroner is the one who has the hearing and provides the death certificate I think. Medical examiner is more forensic oriented—does autopsies, investigates cause/method of death.
 
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I have not heard the Medical Examiner information from any MSM outlet. I am will wait for that before drawing any conclusions.
 
  • #28,096
Given the rumours around the home owner, and the card on the door, my conspiracy brain has just booted up...... so that means it's definitely time to go to sleep before I fail down some nonsense rabbit hole!

I should do the same, this had my brain in overdrive. Large amount of LE cars have gone in, for the third time, from what I have seen. This is def not a nothing-burger.
 
  • #28,097
I don't have a good feeling about this. 😔
 
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Any idea where the thought that it’s an Air B&B came from? I’ve heard some mention of the possibility. It’s hard to tell what is what in this case.
I’d look at the assessor site for the owner and check the mailing address. That will tell you if the owner likely lives there.
 

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