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DBM
 
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MG's dealership is an 11 minute drive from NG's house. The scene currently being investigated by police is on N Carmino De Michael. All are in a very tight area, as shown by the Maps image below

A is NG's house
B is the area being investigated
The grey circle is the dealership.

Oracle road isn't that where the Circle K is that LE got a tip about a vehicle of interest being seen there?
 
  • #28,583
Are authorities still on scene at N Carmino De Michael?
There were two streets named in news reports, like this one:


Speculation: based on last night’s drone footage from news channels, the other street, N Placita de Rojelio, is more likely. The specific building shown in the aerial video, with LE vehicles surrounding it, is easy to identify. It’s not okay to mention it here yet, but it will all be public soon if things pan out. I could be wrong but I think the local LE and FBI are onto a winner with this one.

(Edited to correct my LE terminology.)
 
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Waiting!
 
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If you mean something like this, this is the trunk of the FBI vehicle, not the Range Rover. The FBI Chevy SUV concealed the back of the Range Rover, and I don’t believe any media was close enough to get a decent photo of the left side when it was uncovered. Screenshot from this video, which is from the live stream I’d watched of Fox 11.
What about this one?
Anyone any idea of what is in the car?
I think i see a backpack with something in it.
 

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Just to catch up:
1. A male and female taken out of a home. They could be mother and son.

2. A traffic stop. One man being questioned in the backseat of a LE vehicle.

3. Next a silver vehicle, in a Culver's parking lot is taken into custody. One that looks like it's been there awhile. There was something or someone in the back they didn't want us to see.
 
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• Law enforcement activity: An operation linked to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance took place Friday night at a residence near her home, the sheriff’s department said. More than a dozen vehicles, including those from SWAT and forensics, were seen at the location before roads reopened after about four hours.

DNA being tested: Investigators found DNA at Guthrie’s property that doesn’t belong to her or those close to her, officials said yesterday. It’s being tested, along with several gloves found as far as 10 miles away from the residence

FBI agents and Swat teams swarmed a property just two miles from Nancy Guthrie's residence as part of an investigation into the 84-year-old's disappearance.

Three individuals were taken into custody during the operation, with one person reportedly shooting himself, according to local news reports

The tactical teams descended on the Tucson, Arizona home at approximately 9pm local time on Friday, acting on a tip received by investigators.

Pima County Sheriff's Department confirmed the FBI's involvement in the joint investigation but declined to release further details at the bureau's request.
 
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We believed that the convenience store LE was tipped off to as seeing a vehicle of interest was the Circle K at 2332 N Oracle Rd.

If so that is one minute away from the motor company and that Circle K has a Bitcoin Depot / Bitcoin ATM inside.
 
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Is it possible they kidnapped her for ransom but because of the stress of the situation (they said she was scared) and being without her medication she died? What would be their options then?
That's a very interesting question. The problem is that IF this is a real kidnapping, they were clearly not smart enough to figure out the proof of life. So we can't count on them doing the smart thing now.

If she is dead, I think they will think they be totally panicked about life in prison, blaming each other for everything that's gone wrong, and will think they have 2 choices. One is to leave her where she is right now and run. The other is risk moving the body to the desert and running.

There is one option that I haven't seen anyone suggest - that Nancy despite her age and mobility issues could be a feisty and stubborn lady. She might be mad about the attempt to steal millions of her daughter's hard earned money, and refuse to tell them anything that would suffice as proof of life. My grandmother has 84 when she died. I can totally see my Grandmother telling kidnappers that no way was she going to help them get her granddaughter's money. And she would have meant it.
 
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Just catching up on the breaking news here. I don't know all the specifics but it doesn't bode well for Nancy IMO. The home involved with detained individuals was just 2 miles from Nancy's residence? Wonder what the pool guys might have been searching for yesterday at Nancy's home?

I'm still holding on to hope that these monsters kept her alive during this time. No way for an innocent 84 year old woman to spend her last days if not. I can't imagine. :(

JMO
 
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Just catching up on the breaking news here. I don't know all the specifics but it doesn't bode well for Nancy IMO. The home involved with detained individuals was just 2 miles from Nancy's residence? Wonder what the pool guys might have been searching for yesterday at Nancy's home?

I'm still holding on to hope that these monsters kept her alive during this time. No way for an innocent 84 year old woman to spend her last days if not. I can't imagine. :(

JMO

It doesn't look good. There were reports of a Medical Examiner present in the area of the home being searched via a warrant.
 
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I process by writing....thought I'd share some reflections as I feel like so many of us have been connected over the last few weeks 🫶

I know we've all been wanting answers since Nancy first went missing, but now I have this feeling of dread finding out the answers. Like putting a face to the crime is somehow more confronting than not knowing. Of course I want whomever did this caught and punished and the family to have some sense of peace and healing and hopefully Nancy home, but its the cold hard reality that can't be avoided to achieve this that I don't want.

It's like we know there is what some would call 'evil' or their own term for people who do these horrible things, but once there is a fairly everyday looking face that goes along with it, it somehow makes it even more confronting.

The bad guy wearing a mask in a horror movie, listening to a true crime podcast....there's some sense of separation from these even though they bring a level of discomfort, sometimes fear. But we can relish in curiosity from an arm's distance and a misguided sense of it not directly impacting us. Feeling like when we lock ourselves in our homes at night, all is well.

But there's a very deep and extraordinarily unsettling feeling that arises seeing those images of the man at Nancy's door, masked and armed, knowing he was, as far as we know, about to breach Nancy's safe haven. Whether or not someone else was already in there or went in after, just knowing Nancy came into contact with this masked figure is gut-wrenchingly hard to reflect on. I don't know about you, but I've had these flashes of thoughts imagining what if it was my dearly departed Mum or Nan or Grandma facing this in the middle of the night, alone.

If things are going the way we suspect, we may very well soon be able to pull off the mask and see the face underneath, but I don't think I really want to see the face underneath. It's likely someone we could walk past in the street and not suspect for a minute they could be capable of such horrible acts, of which we aren't even aware of yet.

I have become more conscious of my home security in the last few weeks, and I think Nancy's disappearance will leave a long-lasting effect on me and probably many others. I have no doubt there have been purchases around the world of Nests and Ring cameras, extra lights and security, which will one day probably save lives that we will never hear about or know about. That's because of Nancy. It will be one of her many legacies, regardless of whether she makes it home safely (I still HOPE) or not.

And I hope for those lucky enough to still have their elderly family members and friends, give them extra hugs and kisses x
 
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Just catching up on the breaking news here. I don't know all the specifics but it doesn't bode well for Nancy IMO. The home involved with detained individuals was just 2 miles from Nancy's residence? Wonder what the pool guys might have been searching for yesterday at Nancy's home?

I'm still holding on to hope that these monsters kept her alive during this time. No way for an innocent 84 year old woman to spend her last days if not. I can't imagine. :(

JMO
If I had to speculate, and this is a ransom plot this group devised - they may not be very good at it and she unexpectedly didn't make it. I have wondered if the reason the sent Ransom note 1 and then there was a delay for a bit is they panicked if something bad happened to her. Just speculating...
 
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Just catching up on the breaking news here. I don't know all the specifics but it doesn't bode well for Nancy IMO. The home involved with detained individuals was just 2 miles from Nancy's residence? Wonder what the pool guys might have been searching for yesterday at Nancy's home?

I'm still holding on to hope that these monsters kept her alive during this time. No way for an innocent 84 year old woman to spend her last days if not. I can't imagine. :(

JMO
Yeah, unfortunately we must brace ourselves for some bad news in that regard. There is still a tiny bit of hope.

I deeply hope she is found, she has to be back with her family where she belongs. 💔

Love will always conquer this type of evil. However, I cannot comprehend how evil one must be to do this…

If the news reports are true about the suicide, then they have captured the evil entities.
 
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I still think there's a chance the whole thing was staged...

What if... Lantana man is the one who contacted TMZ to dob the others in. He wanted BC to start afresh, say in Dubai, or somewhere. Let's say he played a smaller role, taking Nest, although of course he did have that fat as backpack on which doesn't bode well.

Who hired 'em ??
 
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Yeah, unfortunately we must brace ourselves for some bad news in that regard. There is still a tiny bit of hope.

I deeply hope she is found, she has to be back with her family where she belongs. 💔

Love will always conquer this type of evil. However, I cannot comprehend how evil one must be to do this…

If the news reports are true about the suicide, then they have captured the evil entities.

I also believe this i.e. if one of the culprits self deleted.
 
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