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MG's dealership is an 11 minute drive from NG's house. The scene currently being investigated by police is on N Carmino De Michael. All are in a very tight area, as shown by the Maps image below

A is NG's house
B is the area being investigated
The grey circle is the dealership.
 

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Would DEEPLY appreciate someone summing up the last 10 hours of developments. I've been sick as a dog and trying desperately to catch up.

Last I heard LE has detained 3 people in the Nancy Guthrie investigation and there was a massive police presence on Camino De MIchael road. I heard LE was going to put out a written statement and then hold a presser in the morning.

I'm still trying to figure out what happened if anything between that news and now.
 
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Would DEEPLY appreciate someone summing up the last 10 hours of developments. I've been sick as a dog and trying desperately to catch up.

Credit to @Mack the Knife for his excellent summary of a Fox10 Live Feed

  • at 20:30 the sheriff’s office told media to go to a staging area to a press briefing but by 23:00 they were told they’d only be getting a written statement, and sources said that they were waiting for FBI approval of a statement
  • Fox News reported two men and one of their mom’s were detained not arrested in connection to a search warrant, and reminded that while a search warrant is executed, it’s typical for residents to be detained for the duration
  • The Range Rover has a yellow piece of paper (looks like from a legal pad) covering the license plate, under an MG Motors plastic license plate frame. No front license plate.
  • Looks like the FBI is collecting the evidence (vs. sheriff)
  • The way they’re talking about the three people detained, it seems like they’re saying they were all at the home where the warrant was being executed. There is, obviously, a vehicle (the Range Rover), and I’m aware of a guy with white pant legs who was obviously being detained in some way, so maybe that’s a source of confusion on the numbers? Possibly one of them (I’d guess the mother) wasn’t a target and was only detained for warrant execution?
  • At 23:40 they show sheriff’s vehicles pulling out of their parking spots and pulling back in closer to the Range Rover
  • At 23:53 they share the Sheriffs statement, which they apparently learned from twitter.
  • At 23:53 LE put a yellow sheet up on the right rear of the Range Rover, covering as they opened the trunk. Fox 11 isn’t sure how they accessed the car, but a few minutes earlier the lights were flashing so I believe LE has the key fob
  • At 23:55 they put up a sheet on the left rear side. It was uncovered for 2 minutes while the trunk was open
  • At 23:57 they close the trunk and fold up the sheets
  • At 00:00 Fox 11 believes LE is wrapping up in the Culver’s parking lot
  • 00:09 the FBI tech is wiping then applying something to the seams of the car. I’m guessing he’s essentially “sealing” the doors
  • 00:34 a tow truck pulls into the lot
  • Camera zooms back in on the paper over the license plate. Looking at how wet that paper is now, I doubt it has been on there for very long. Driving with that in any sort of rain, it would disintegrate
  • FBI takes pictures of the side of the vehicle up on the truck bed
  • 00:53 tow truck drives away with the Range Rover and the LE vehicles all leave
  • And with that, I’m back to present time
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  • #28,624
"Account based in Jordan", so although I see the resemblance to the sketch artist's rendering, it's probably not him. Excellent detective work, though!
 
  • #28,625
"Account based in Jordan", so although I see the resemblance to the sketch artist's rendering, it's probably not him. Excellent detective work, though!
He lives in Tucson. Look at his IG story highlights.
 
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DBM
 
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MG's dealership is an 11 minute drive from NG's house. The scene currently being investigated by police is on N Carmino De Michael. All are in a very tight area, as shown by the Maps image below

A is NG's house
B is the area being investigated
The grey circle is the dealership.

Oracle road isn't that where the Circle K is that LE got a tip about a vehicle of interest being seen there?
 
  • #28,629
I see a likeness of ZJ as well, great sleuthing! perhaps the dealership could be involved in money laundering
 
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Are authorities still on scene at N Carmino De Michael?
There were two streets named in news reports, like this one:


Speculation: based on last night’s drone footage from news channels, the other street, N Placita de Rojelio, is more likely. The specific building shown in the aerial video, with LE vehicles surrounding it, is easy to identify. It’s not okay to mention it here yet, but it will all be public soon if things pan out. I could be wrong but I think the local LE and FBI are onto a winner with this one.

(Edited to correct my LE terminology.)
 
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Waiting!
 
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If you mean something like this, this is the trunk of the FBI vehicle, not the Range Rover. The FBI Chevy SUV concealed the back of the Range Rover, and I don’t believe any media was close enough to get a decent photo of the left side when it was uncovered. Screenshot from this video, which is from the live stream I’d watched of Fox 11.
What about this one?
Anyone any idea of what is in the car?
I think i see a backpack with something in it.
 

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Just to catch up:
1. A male and female taken out of a home. They could be mother and son.

2. A traffic stop. One man being questioned in the backseat of a LE vehicle.

3. Next a silver vehicle, in a Culver's parking lot is taken into custody. One that looks like it's been there awhile. There was something or someone in the back they didn't want us to see.
 
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• Law enforcement activity: An operation linked to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance took place Friday night at a residence near her home, the sheriff’s department said. More than a dozen vehicles, including those from SWAT and forensics, were seen at the location before roads reopened after about four hours.

DNA being tested: Investigators found DNA at Guthrie’s property that doesn’t belong to her or those close to her, officials said yesterday. It’s being tested, along with several gloves found as far as 10 miles away from the residence

FBI agents and Swat teams swarmed a property just two miles from Nancy Guthrie's residence as part of an investigation into the 84-year-old's disappearance.

Three individuals were taken into custody during the operation, with one person reportedly shooting himself, according to local news reports

The tactical teams descended on the Tucson, Arizona home at approximately 9pm local time on Friday, acting on a tip received by investigators.

Pima County Sheriff's Department confirmed the FBI's involvement in the joint investigation but declined to release further details at the bureau's request.
 
  • #28,637
We believed that the convenience store LE was tipped off to as seeing a vehicle of interest was the Circle K at 2332 N Oracle Rd.

If so that is one minute away from the motor company and that Circle K has a Bitcoin Depot / Bitcoin ATM inside.
 
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Is it possible they kidnapped her for ransom but because of the stress of the situation (they said she was scared) and being without her medication she died? What would be their options then?
That's a very interesting question. The problem is that IF this is a real kidnapping, they were clearly not smart enough to figure out the proof of life. So we can't count on them doing the smart thing now.

If she is dead, I think they will think they be totally panicked about life in prison, blaming each other for everything that's gone wrong, and will think they have 2 choices. One is to leave her where she is right now and run. The other is risk moving the body to the desert and running.

There is one option that I haven't seen anyone suggest - that Nancy despite her age and mobility issues could be a feisty and stubborn lady. She might be mad about the attempt to steal millions of her daughter's hard earned money, and refuse to tell them anything that would suffice as proof of life. My grandmother has 84 when she died. I can totally see my Grandmother telling kidnappers that no way was she going to help them get her granddaughter's money. And she would have meant it.
 
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Just catching up on the breaking news here. I don't know all the specifics but it doesn't bode well for Nancy IMO. The home involved with detained individuals was just 2 miles from Nancy's residence? Wonder what the pool guys might have been searching for yesterday at Nancy's home?

I'm still holding on to hope that these monsters kept her alive during this time. No way for an innocent 84 year old woman to spend her last days if not. I can't imagine. :(

JMO
 
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After this I'm not saying another word about Mr. Instagram -- but the different countries' flags on his page made me think of the most recent correspondence TMZ got: Kidnapper Is 'International'.
 

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