AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[slowpoke]

also per article I read today, a friend visited Nancy a few days before she was taken and it said she helped her to the mailbox....the mailbox looks directly going down the sidewalk, so it shows the front door and security door seems to have been used by the household

Jmo, but I don’t think it necessarily means the front door was used in this instance (getting the mail). She could have again walked out and gone via her garage door, to avoid those front door steps.

“…when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.”

NYTimes article

 

[submarine7]

Nancy Guthrie’s Friends Refuse to Give Up Hope She’s Alive

Shortly before her disappearance, Ms. Guthrie, the mother of the NBC host Savannah Guthrie, was celebrating her 84th birthday and playing games.

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quoted from the Article ... New York Times Article on 2/13/26

Her toughness has always surfaced in difficult moments, like when her husband died suddenly in 1988, or when budget cuts threatened a vital public health service at the university where she worked, or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.

This makes me so sad to imagine them forcing her down that path when every step may have caused her immense pain.

 

[Leilei]

Leave it to the Aussies to tell us how they really feel. IMO

Crikey!
And they aren't wrong, IMO.
I've lost some confidence over the past almost two weeks.
IMO.

 

[Eli9]

Is it possible that they could have gone to Mexico and gotten the needed medication without a prescription?

I like this. Out of the box thinking and gives a glimmer of hope.

Plausible? I have no idea.

You are glass half full in the middle of desert and we need more like you.

 

[Bodhi]

I find this interesting because it gives confirmation of
1) inside cameras
2) the family specifically monitoring NG (or at least that was the intent)
3) access to people (which is more that most in a home where only the homeowner has access).

Now, if these were set up by the family surely they were recording. Were they a separate system from the Nest? All home wifi systems and more elaborate CCTV now use cloud based recording. Why in this context would that not be available (it would not make sense otherwise to monitor their mom in case of falls, they need to access the footage, they are not watching 24/7).

Now the huge advantage of cloud based recordings (as opposed to back in the day when a skell would smash and grab a local dvr during the crime) is that you will record the person disabling the system and have it on your cloud/push alert even if the camera is disabled (just like the doorbell cam). So what happened here? And with the approach angles to inside cameras you'd probably have some better footage as the cameras were being disabled (and again why smashed, just spray and disconnect them, again amateur approach).

Respectfully, I caution against taking this article as confirmation of anything. The headline and first sentence use the word theory. Everything that follows is predicated with "insiders close to the case believe. . . ." Whether the sources are family members, service providers, investigators, neighbors, etc., is not known, which makes the opinion difficult to evaluate. The theory may be accurate, we don't know. But the article is clear that it is speculation from unidentified individuals. It isn't establishing or confirming facts.

 

[Love Never Fails]

MOO but this guy is wearing a mask.

Like I stated, the one who took Nancy is wearing a mask. But the professional who drew a picture of his face would agree the first guy looks like the perp. The first guy has no mask on. Maybe he wasn’’t planning a kidnapping or burglary. he was just snooping. I think both are the same man. MOO.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Basically the jacket, holster and backpack was all Walmart. I wonder if FBI have asked all the Walmarts within a 100 mile radius to check for a transaction that included all 3. Walmart has nearly the same amount of cameras as a casino! They’ve helped in many cases. I’m sad I even have to ask if they’ve done this, but the whole investigation is a clown show. So many resources poured into a follow up lead 2x and NOTHING to show for it.

I don’t believe there is nothing to show for last nights raids yet. The would have collected dna and other forensic evidence which has to be examined before it can be confirmed whether they are involved or not. They wouldn’t have got a federal search warrant or expended that many resources if they didn’t have some reliable information before going in. JMO

 

[cait2007]

Here is a wild idea- is it possible that the real perpetrators are sending in 'tips' that seem to have some validity, but are purposefully sending the local LE and FBI on wild goose chases to make them look bad? How does LE and FBI determine if a tip is valid?

The judge has to sign a warrant for any search. So it has to be something legitimate! That’s what makes it even scarier. How are they getting warrants for nothing?

 

[Nikynoo]

Not buying that about internal cameras, we would have heard about that before now. If even to confirm Nancy was seen inside the house that night. Nonsense IMO.

Plus, if there were internal cameras, the family would have seen something was amiss without having to go to the house.

 

[windrower]

The universal holster he had had a long belt loop on it like these cheapo vinly holsters do. He attempted an awkward appendix open carry with it, but basically it was dangling low front and center off of his belt-line. It did not have a clip like say the kydex holster I use and would tuck into my belt-line if I were conceal carrying appendix style.

Moreso, he had what appeared to be a late gen semi auto stuffed into a longer profile pistol holster (?), and was wearing thick gloves that would be hard to fit into a trigger guard, so his entire set-up was impractical "show-over-use".

The outfit of NG’s porch guy makes me wonder if what he was there to do was simply to frighten her, and to do so at someone else’s behest.

(IMO: My theory is because of financials, but based on house histories and changes of who lives where. And NG’s reluctance to move or have live-ins. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I’ve been here since the beginning. But something is wonky with this case, so . . . .)

Frighten NG enough to make a change.

And I imagine it did frighten her to awaken to someone (or more than one) dressed like that in her home.

Unfortunately, it frightened her to death and panic ensued.

(Although, I also still hold out hope for her to be alive. Strange juxtaposition.)

A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports.

RadarOnline.com can reveal insiders close to the case believe the 84-year-old's captors would be familiar with the inside of the 84-year-old's $1million home, given interior cameras were allegedly smashed during her kidnapping.

The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone.

Nancy Guthrie Abduction Points to 'Inside Job': Chilling New Theory Emerges Surrounding Masked Man Behind Disappearance of 'Today' Host Savannah's Mom

A new theory surrounding Nancy Guthrie's abduction points to an inside job, according to reports. RadarOnline.

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I’d sure like to know if this is true.

 

[Sadi]

I wonder if this hints at just because no one was arrested in last night's raid, that doesn't necessarily mean that LE / FBI won't return to make an arrest after the extra evidence that was gathered from the vehicle and residence has been tested.

Exactly. They spent 2 hours going through the Range Rover and then had it towed away. There has to be something there. IMOO

 

[SaraSmile]

I think it depends on the fate of her mother. If her mother is found alive, the sunny Savannah morning show TV host works just fine, provided her closest family are cleared.

If her mother doesn't make it and/or family members are found to be involved, regardless of Savannah being able to show up and act the part, I think the audience would actually struggle with this.

Don't underestimate SG. If she has to take a more serious posture, she could easily re-focus on a less sunny role. I think she continues to succeed regardless, if she wants to work.

I think the notion of someone having her mother harmed to try to get her spot is special.

JMO
I don’t think it has to do with SG, although, I do understand why everyone wonders.

If it was about SG, politically motivated? I think the person usually shoots, not an elaborate
Kidnapping type crime, with disguises.

Think of Charlie Kirk shooting, Tyler Robinson had extreme views, shot Kirk.
In this case, perp would shoot NG, to get back at SG, for a political statement.

I just don’t think it’s about SG, at this time.

JMO

 

[stmichael]

Re Drug Trade. JMO

Along these lines, I mentioned earlier, that I thought it may be someone in the drug trade. Very close to Border where drugs come across daily, many people undoubtedly “ moonlight” in the drug trade. Tucson is known to have a lot of crime, probably drug crime is high, including getting rid of possible snitches. JMO

Possibly someone who worked for NG, day job checked out, hard working, honest on day job. Good work reviews. Worked some kind of construction or repair.

Maybe, one day NG happened to be walking near a worker, his car trunk open, she spotted what looked like cocaine bricks. Because NG had seen this on the News, close to border. NG asked “hey, is that drugs? ( she’s sharp as a tack!). It Was drugs!, but the worker closed the trunk and waved her off, “No just supplies for the construction business”. Acted amused and tried to laugh it off, assured her all was good.

Later, this person got paranoid, thought NG might turn him in. He worried about his own freedom, and drug bosses finding out that he may have gotten himself ( and ring) exposed. He hatched a plot with a drug friend, to get disguises, go into NGs home, remove her. So she would not talk, I’m sorry, I think she was killed right away, deposited in desert.

This example is a “ simple” everyday crime, and sadly, this kind of crime happens a lot because of possible exposure of the drug ring. I’m sorry, a beloved Mom is now likely gone. This theory works as there are few obvious clues RN, and in this example, because it was purely voice to voice convo, and no one else heard them, no texts or emails. NG probably forgot about it, didn’t tell anyone either.

Just an idea, as other ideas like kidnapping/ransom don’t make sense to me, too complicated.
I hope I’m wrong, that Nancy is still out there.

JMO

Well, I don't know about all that--woah boy (i think it was more low level wannabes).
But the house was a prime target, and NG was an easy mark with a rich daughter.

All it takes is one worker in a bar mentioning it to his buddy who then tells it to an associate or desperate wannabe gangbanger he knows from the neighborhood.

"Hey I worked on this lady's big house, she lives there alone. No dog. Her daughter is that millionaire TV lady man. Yeah, it's so dark at night and she only has a few cameras, just Nest stuff bro. And the neighbors can't even see her house. We did the roof for 2 hours and no one saw us. Wait, don't tell your crazy Cholo cousin who always comes up with those wannabe gangsta schemes, ok?"

 

[Love Never Fails]

IYO—
1. There is a video of a masked person wearing bulky clothing /possible self-disguised with a common backpack and gloves. So far no to VIABLE identification of said person has been made—at least one WRONG tip resulted in person detained and released.
2. There is a DNA sample taken from the house that has yet to be proved tied to the crime. Yes—it is not NG’s DNA but plenty of people leave DNA when they come into homes.
Has anyone considered it could be the DNA of a LE person that after analysis will be ruled out? With people going into the crime scene at various times and possibly contaminating it, this possibility occurred to me.
3. At this time no info as to WHY last night’s search happened—whether one or more tips from the tip line or a lead developed from LE investigation. No person was kept in custody.
4. In most cases I have read about evidence taken from a search warrant search CONFIRMS information developed and tied to a likely suspect. So while forensic search brings out evidence to tie the person to the actual crime, that person is usually undergoing a 24 or 48 hr hold for questioning.
Nothing like that happened last night— no longer questioning has occurred so far. Rio Rico guy released as soon as…don’t know if any people last night even went to police station for questioning.

All taking random DNA and other “evidence” from the wrong/inaccurate search site does is wear down the people doing the lab work.
They may have collected evidence at the scene last night—
Or they may not—

5.The forensic people had to be there IF the suspects were viable for the crime.
Maybe they took 100 samples away and after taking to the people decided it was a nothing burger…think they will spend time/money to process all those samples looking for something that isn’t going to be there?

Agree to disagree…especially with the sheriff and his comment of how it might take years.

 

[submarine7]

Is it possible that they could have gone to Mexico and gotten the needed medication without a prescription?

I think it's possible she's in Mexico.

 

[EyeCandy]

Jmo, but I don’t think it necessarily means the front door was used in this instance (getting the mail). She could have again walked out and gone via her garage door, to avoid those front door steps.

“…when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.”

NYTimes article

Her toughness has always surfaced in difficult moments, like when her husband died suddenly in 1988, or when budget cuts threatened a vital public health service at the university where she worked, or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.

Don't see them going out the garage way though to the mailbox when it looks like it is straight down the pathway from the front door ... or am I seeing something else that is not the mailbox

I would certainly go the shorter distance to my own mailbox since I have mobility problems

It also seems from the article that 2 days before disappearance she had friends in for games and I guess early birthday party and that this is when they went to mailbox

Said she would sit up a game table in the living room...which I'd think would be the first room from the front door

all speculation and my opinion .. I have mobility issues from 5 femur surgeries so I know about limiting distance

Is there any info on what caused her mobility ... just age or had she had surgeries other than the pacemaker?

 

[wibbleflea]

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

Perhaps those internal cameras didn’t cover the doorways. Perhaps the perp walked in, moved his eyes around (imagine!), took note of the cameras and made sure he smashed them without remaining within the cameras’ fields of view for too long. Installing internal, remotely viewable cameras for a single, elderly occupant of a home isn’t unusual. (I’m speaking from experience, going back seven years.)

On the positive side: if they know when those internal cameras were smashed, they know more about timing in general, and whether the abductor made an earlier visit.

 

[su5ie]

I've posted about 20 paragraphs or more about the awkward version of "appendix carry" that the Nest cam suspected displayed along with the proper way we conceal carry in this manner.

I have said I think his awkward facsimile was deliberate and practical in it's desired result - intimidation and coercion. I doubt the suspect even knows what an "appendix carry" really is.

When you see him out of frame w/o the backpack, further out (washed out in the IR camera glow) he does not have the gun.holster displayed, but since it is on a belt loop presumably it's concealed. When he approaches he brandished the gun/holster front and center (in a right hand draw orientation). This is deliberate as he's approaching the door. I believe he wanted it to be seen for intimidation and coercion of who he would encounter behind the door. This is further supported by his cumbersome gloves not being practical for a draw or even getting his finger in a trigger guard, or using a semi auto in a mus-profiled pistol holster, in a situation where he'd have to respond (armed homeowner, security guard) but he likely knew he had an easy mark inside. It's more for show and not practical for use. I don't even think it was habitual, but rather a skewed version of what he thought was practical and served his purpose. For instance there are many other ways to conceal carry and then brandish the firearm when you need it (but you'd need a real holster for that) and not some cheap universal holster with a goofy belt loop you picked up laying about.

So IMO this all point to the gun (if it even WAS a live firearm and not a replica, etc.) for intimidation and coercion. Approaching that way also leaves no doubt to the homeowner (masked man approaching brandishing a weapon at night, even in an open carry state) and if it was my house he stood a good chance of getting a Mozambique drill.

This is a brilliant post and great catch on the fact that due to thickness of the gloves if the need arose for porch guy to draw his weapon he possibly and most likely would not have been able to fit his finger in the trigger guard so therefore would have to remove the glove to do so

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I have seen quite a few posts through this thread commenting on Nancy’s personality - she was sharp as a tack, she is a feisty lady, nobody’s fool type comments and what a wonderful, lovely person she is. We don’t actually know what she is like as a person, I just find it a bit odd a whole personality is being made up.

 

[SUNchips]

goatee

Question still stands. You can only see the mustache imo