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Not buying that about internal cameras, we would have heard about that before now. If even to confirm Nancy was seen inside the house that night. Nonsense IMO.
 
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Is there a link for the article?
Link on a post upthread

 
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I heard on a podcast last night that journalist are already trying to position themselves to take over Savanna's Today host position.
that job is for Shienelle or Jenna.
if they gave Shienelle a year to deal with her poor husband, they can handle SG taking a break
that said i dont think she will. she worked hard for that position and is at the top of her game
 
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"FBI update about Nancy Guthrie investigation being held up

because they're waiting for test results from blundering sheriff's office."


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The Daily Mail pays top dollar to the paparazzi for shots and it shows but when it comes to actual journalists they seem to invest nothing.
 
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Seems like a strange time to get a pool cleaned. It can wait.

Why let additional folks onto the property if it’s entirely unnecessary. Hopefully this isn’t like the pizza delivery guy sent by some randos. LE should turn pool people away regardless of who approved them.
YES. I know there are going to be folks here who say why not, but I’d rather see as few people/changes on the property as possible, at least for a few weeks. It seems strange and wrong to me,
 
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Feb. 14 (UPI) — Investigators announced finding DNA evidence on the property of Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson home that does not belong to her or anyone close to her, and they impounded a Range Rover SUV on Saturday.

No arrests have been made in the case two weeks since Guthrie, 84, was reported missing from her Tucson home, but investigators worked from Friday night into the early morning hours on Saturday after discovering the DNA sample on her property.
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A Pima County Sheriff’s Department spokeswoman on Friday confirmed the DNA discovery but said they do not know to whom it belongs.

“Investigators are working to identify who it belongs to,” the sheriff’s department acknowledged, while declining to reveal where it was found
 
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dbm
 
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True, but I had never heard of her before this
I think with the internet as it is this case is worldwide, I am in England and our news both online and off is full of the NG story,
 
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one of the major factors for me not seeing this as a targeted kidnapping is you would want to keep NG alive and comfortable in order to get your ransom, if targeted you would know what medications she took and you would have taken them with her, would have taken her hearing aids (I haven't heard anything from LE confirming if they were taken with her or left behind),
by not taking her medications you are at risk of her health declining and she may die without her medications, we do not know exactly what she took and how important it was to keep her alive,
 
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Besides the house a few days ago & last night, have other search warrants been issued? For example, was Annie’s home searched with a warrant or just searched with permission? (Not implying, I just don’t know the answer to this) I’ve decided to go back to my original thoughts.(and most likely MANY peoples’s original thoughts).
IMO, She was taken by someone whom she knows or by someone hired by someone she knows. She isn’t far. Her medicine is with her & this blew up bigger than expected & now they are stuck. I’m sticking with this.They say the majority of crime happens because of money, sex, or drugs. I’ve eliminated 2 of those in this case. This was intended to be easy peasy, get the $ and run, not kill her etc. and now they don’t know what to do. I wish the media & circus of people would just go home. It might give the captors the breathing room to let her go.
Is it possible that they could have gone to Mexico and gotten the needed medication without a prescription?
 
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Article written by a US reporter. "WILKO MARTÍNEZ-CACHERO, US REPORTER"

I would venture to say that many/most Aussies don't know who Savannah Guthrie is, let alone her mother

I have no hope that Nancy is alive, but this has to be solvable. There is no leaked information about exactly how entry was made, but I am of the opinion that there was much more evidence of a crime, than just the blood down the front path. I do wonder if there is any audio from cameras, and DNA that can link back to the perpetrator/s. There has to be a lot of undisclosed evidence.
There always is. With the Idaho 4 murders everyone thought nothing was happening after a month then bam! Arrest is made. What makes this different is these false detentions looking like they have finally caught someone only to release them. Optics are not good but then again we are still waiting to hear on results from various forensics. It could all be leading towards something or nothing.
 
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that job is for Shienelle or Jenna.
if they gave Shienelle a year to deal with her poor husband, they can handle SG taking a break
that said i dont think she will. she worked hard for that position and is at the top of her game
I think they were pointing out the cutthroat nature of journalism and nothing. I inadvertently started this and that all I meant was sharks were lining up.
 
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True, but I had never heard of her before this
I had not heard of NG but had heard of SG as I am a true crime addict and follow many US cases and have a reasonable knowledge of lots of US media networks and programs
 
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Signs Point to an Inside job

“The cameras were installed by Nancy's family, including her Today anchor daughter Savannah, for their elderly mom's safety, especially if she suffered a fall.

But the abductor knew where they were situated, prompting a belief they may have been familiar with the security setup – first reported by journalist Ashleigh Banfield – inside the home.

A source said, "The signs point to an inside job. Cameras that were smashed inside the home were there to protect their mother.

"Only a very few people have access to them — they were installed to make sure nothing happened to their mom, like if she fell when home alone."

Whoever this possible abductor is, they went inside the house and knew where those cameras were pointing," the insider added. "They were able to smash the cameras before their motion was visible in the recordings or streams. To do this, it takes a chilling level of intel."

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The source of this article is RadarOnline. Not exactly mainstream media or reliable.
 
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Whatever purpose of holstering this way, it is deliberate IMO. Either habitual or offleading.


I've posted about 20 paragraphs or more about the awkward version of "appendix carry" that the Nest cam suspected displayed along with the proper way we conceal carry in this manner.

I have said I think his awkward facsimile was deliberate and practical in it's desired result - intimidation and coercion. I doubt the suspect even knows what an "appendix carry" really is.

When you see him out of frame w/o the backpack, further out (washed out in the IR camera glow) he does not have the gun.holster displayed, but since it is on a belt loop presumably it's concealed. When he approaches he brandished the gun/holster front and center (in a right hand draw orientation). This is deliberate as he's approaching the door. I believe he wanted it to be seen for intimidation and coercion of who he would encounter behind the door. This is further supported by his cumbersome gloves not being practical for a draw or even getting his finger in a trigger guard, or using a semi auto in a mus-profiled pistol holster, in a situation where he'd have to respond (armed homeowner, security guard) but he likely knew he had an easy mark inside. It's more for show and not practical for use. I don't even think it was habitual, but rather a skewed version of what he thought was practical and served his purpose. For instance there are many other ways to conceal carry and then brandish the firearm when you need it (but you'd need a real holster for that) and not some cheap universal holster with a goofy belt loop you picked up laying about.

So IMO this all point to the gun (if it even WAS a live firearm and not a replica, etc.) for intimidation and coercion. Approaching that way also leaves no doubt to the homeowner (masked man approaching brandishing a weapon at night, even in an open carry state) and if it was my house he stood a good chance of getting a Mozambique drill.
 
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Sorry the picture linked to it but I have edited and added.

Interesting. Thanks for linking. I can’t say I remember hearing Ashleigh Bandielf ever say that and she certainly hasn’t repeated it. I’m wondering if this is bad writing because AB discussed the outside cameras being smashed.

Hmm
 
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There always is. With the Idaho 4 murders everyone thought nothing was happening after a month then bam! Arrest is made. What makes this different is these false detentions looking like they have finally caught someone only to release them. Optics are not good but then again we are still waiting to hear on results from various forensics. It could all be leading towards something or nothing.
the issue isn't with the arrest for me but NG health the longer it goes on, but then I haven't thought it was a kidnapping and don't think she is alive, but the possibility exists she is and she is without her heart medication, her pace maker is not monitored, and she is in constant pain according to SG, so the longer it goes on if she was taken alive and kidnapped the more she suffers
 

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